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		<title>By: Zoltan Hahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoltan Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck M

Seldom, in fact, never have I seen a case put forward more succintly, elegantly,
and factually than your writing... It all  100% true and sadly so. Congrats !
I cant disagree with a single point except one .. spreading the wealth around, is
one of the main platforms of &quot;the Communist Manifesto &quot; the fact is that
while it naively says that, true enough, &lt;strong&gt;what is left out&lt;/strong&gt; in practice is WHO the
recipient of that wealth is, and I can tell you from personal experience ,, that
the wealth (money, real estate, perks, power, ect, ect, is reserved for the top
.01% of reliable co-horts, party colleques, obedient servants  and on.
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Not too different from Washington&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;What the solution is&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; clouded in mystery, since the interlocking control of
all power centres (congless/senate/whitehouse/judiciary) at federal/state and
to a lesser degree at municipal levels is pretty complete.
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Where&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is there a man or many men, who can put their ego,financial matters,
their very freedon at risk, to fight the Great Monster (NWO)., knowing full well
that any effort will be mostly ignored by great uncaring and unwashed masses, too ignorant and naive to know or see the truth.  However knowing full well that it
will be brought into the light by  the ever watching Big Brother with their mineons,
of bought and paid for  &quot;public servants&quot;
Perhaps those brave men are forever gone.
A thought has come to mind, in 1991 I believe the Russians had a small &quot;coup&quot;,
remember the one that threw out Gorbachev for a couple of weeks.
During the first few days of it the Russian army was in Moscow, manning the checkpoints ect, during one or two evenings when the crowd got somewhat
noisy and rambunctious, some shots were fired, but for the most part no large
scale shooting ensued, the following morning some officers and ordinary soldiers
were interviewed and by in large they said the they would not fire on civilians, or
as one put it &quot; on my people&quot;
I wonder in the days to come when the as army/marines/nat guard/ will be on the
streets in most american cities,  will they also disobej and not fire on citizens ??
We&#039;ll see.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck M</p>
<p>Seldom, in fact, never have I seen a case put forward more succintly, elegantly,<br />
and factually than your writing&#8230; It all  100% true and sadly so. Congrats !<br />
I cant disagree with a single point except one .. spreading the wealth around, is<br />
one of the main platforms of &#8220;the Communist Manifesto &#8221; the fact is that<br />
while it naively says that, true enough, <strong>what is left out</strong> in practice is WHO the<br />
recipient of that wealth is, and I can tell you from personal experience ,, that<br />
the wealth (money, real estate, perks, power, ect, ect, is reserved for the top<br />
.01% of reliable co-horts, party colleques, obedient servants  and on.<br />
<strong><em>Not too different from Washington</em></strong><br />
<strong><em>What the solution is</em></strong> clouded in mystery, since the interlocking control of<br />
all power centres (congless/senate/whitehouse/judiciary) at federal/state and<br />
to a lesser degree at municipal levels is pretty complete.<br />
<strong><em>Where</em></strong> is there a man or many men, who can put their ego,financial matters,<br />
their very freedon at risk, to fight the Great Monster (NWO)., knowing full well<br />
that any effort will be mostly ignored by great uncaring and unwashed masses, too ignorant and naive to know or see the truth.  However knowing full well that it<br />
will be brought into the light by  the ever watching Big Brother with their mineons,<br />
of bought and paid for  &#8220;public servants&#8221;<br />
Perhaps those brave men are forever gone.<br />
A thought has come to mind, in 1991 I believe the Russians had a small &#8220;coup&#8221;,<br />
remember the one that threw out Gorbachev for a couple of weeks.<br />
During the first few days of it the Russian army was in Moscow, manning the checkpoints ect, during one or two evenings when the crowd got somewhat<br />
noisy and rambunctious, some shots were fired, but for the most part no large<br />
scale shooting ensued, the following morning some officers and ordinary soldiers<br />
were interviewed and by in large they said the they would not fire on civilians, or<br />
as one put it &#8221; on my people&#8221;<br />
I wonder in the days to come when the as army/marines/nat guard/ will be on the<br />
streets in most american cities,  will they also disobej and not fire on citizens ??<br />
We&#8217;ll see.!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric g</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont believe chinia own most of the land in california .  I think Chinia holds mostly gorvernment bonds .   Its the same old story of the poor financing the rich , big spenders and  high livers . I guess mexicoe loans us money too . 
      Now I understand the poor states are going to finance california .   I would rather throw California out of the United States , if they cant balance their budjet .    States should be forced to balance their income with their expenditures . Raise taxes or reduce spending .    California has plenty of money for foolishness , but seems to want the rest of us to pay for their neccesities .  I say hell no </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont believe chinia own most of the land in california .  I think Chinia holds mostly gorvernment bonds .   Its the same old story of the poor financing the rich , big spenders and  high livers . I guess mexicoe loans us money too .<br />
      Now I understand the poor states are going to finance california .   I would rather throw California out of the United States , if they cant balance their budjet .    States should be forced to balance their income with their expenditures . Raise taxes or reduce spending .    California has plenty of money for foolishness , but seems to want the rest of us to pay for their neccesities .  I say hell no</p>
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		<title>By: susan Tenofsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan Tenofsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 15:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Present personal fiscal irresponsibility is what our children eventually learn. Yes, they must foot the bill for our indiscretions. 
The beginning of the end of our prosperity started with the acceptance of the encouragement of Credit Card Companies and Government Policies  pushing the power of using credit, not cash. The American people fell for this offer, hook, line and sinker.The Getting something for nothing syndrome felt terrific. The Banks took complete advantage of the policy, as well as the poverty-stricken wrongfully investing in homes beyond their means.Presidents and Congress fell into the trap of condoning this philosophy. The immediate pleasure got votes!  ACORN forced the issue by protesting for poverty-stricken to be treated as &quot;equals&quot; who should have homes they could not really afford. Banks found it a profitable indiscretion. Now all suffer because of the stupidity of short term thinking.Where could basic values of goodness, right and wrong go. For the many decent values disappeared. The ploy to create change....through socialism.... will steal our freedoms from us. Does the public know or care about
their loss of Independence.....sadly for the most part...No.   Each will be losing more than the value of the dollar, each will lose their soul. Yes, the stars were aligned for an Obama Nation, Chicago style. Now all Americans are Obama&#039;s victims.  What is left after the pretty picture Obama presents, I fear  to think of that! May God help me bear the future.   

Susan Tenofsky    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Present personal fiscal irresponsibility is what our children eventually learn. Yes, they must foot the bill for our indiscretions.<br />
The beginning of the end of our prosperity started with the acceptance of the encouragement of Credit Card Companies and Government Policies  pushing the power of using credit, not cash. The American people fell for this offer, hook, line and sinker.The Getting something for nothing syndrome felt terrific. The Banks took complete advantage of the policy, as well as the poverty-stricken wrongfully investing in homes beyond their means.Presidents and Congress fell into the trap of condoning this philosophy. The immediate pleasure got votes!  ACORN forced the issue by protesting for poverty-stricken to be treated as &#8220;equals&#8221; who should have homes they could not really afford. Banks found it a profitable indiscretion. Now all suffer because of the stupidity of short term thinking.Where could basic values of goodness, right and wrong go. For the many decent values disappeared. The ploy to create change&#8230;.through socialism&#8230;. will steal our freedoms from us. Does the public know or care about<br />
their loss of Independence&#8230;..sadly for the most part&#8230;No.   Each will be losing more than the value of the dollar, each will lose their soul. Yes, the stars were aligned for an Obama Nation, Chicago style. Now all Americans are Obama&#8217;s victims.  What is left after the pretty picture Obama presents, I fear  to think of that! May God help me bear the future.   </p>
<p>Susan Tenofsky</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parents of John McCain: Admiral John Sydney McCain, Jr. (from Indiana) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (from Oklahoma)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parents of John McCain: Admiral John Sydney McCain, Jr. (from Indiana) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (from Oklahoma)</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“&lt;a href=&quot;a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;8 U.S.C. 1403&lt;/a&gt; Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“<a href="a" rel="nofollow">8 U.S.C. 1403</a> Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.”</p>
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		<title>By: morison dony</title>
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		<dc:creator>morison dony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this.  Just subscribed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this.  Just subscribed.</p>
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		<title>By: virginia</title>
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		<dc:creator>virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob are you trying to push gold prices up by making it sound to good to be true. I&#039;d rather have cash to take  to shopping than gold. If everybody in the media pusges gold it will go yo if you all push stocks they will go up. If you badmouth them &amp; hammer them they will go down. Frankly if the media would tell good news instead of doom &amp; gloom all the time people would buy more. I know I would. I would like to buy big ticket items but everybody is so pessimistic I&#039;m scared to spend what I have or buy on credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob are you trying to push gold prices up by making it sound to good to be true. I&#8217;d rather have cash to take  to shopping than gold. If everybody in the media pusges gold it will go yo if you all push stocks they will go up. If you badmouth them &amp; hammer them they will go down. Frankly if the media would tell good news instead of doom &amp; gloom all the time people would buy more. I know I would. I would like to buy big ticket items but everybody is so pessimistic I&#8217;m scared to spend what I have or buy on credit.</p>
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		<title>By: virginia</title>
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		<dc:creator>virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every polition should have to prove their citenship before they can run for office. Any canidate who won&#039;t even when the public tells them to show proof is telling me they can&#039;t show proof because they aren&#039;t a citizen. But to millions it did&#039;nt make a difference. Hillary Clinton would have made a great president.She is very intelligent, compasionate &amp; lived in the white house during a time of great prosperity for Americans. Don&#039;t waste time &amp; money on a canidate unless they can prove they are an American born citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every polition should have to prove their citenship before they can run for office. Any canidate who won&#8217;t even when the public tells them to show proof is telling me they can&#8217;t show proof because they aren&#8217;t a citizen. But to millions it did&#8217;nt make a difference. Hillary Clinton would have made a great president.She is very intelligent, compasionate &amp; lived in the white house during a time of great prosperity for Americans. Don&#8217;t waste time &amp; money on a canidate unless they can prove they are an American born citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, you are too stupid to even reply.</description>
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		<title>By: s c mailen, jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>s c mailen, jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of what it&#039;s called, we can&#039;t tolerate debt or ponzi schemes. These ideas are leading America down the path to slavery.
America has millions of people who do not understand the difference between slavery and freedom. God knew what He was doing when he compared us to sheep.
When people understand that Washington is full of predators [and we are their prey] we will no longer be forced to sacrifice for those who do not deserve to lead us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of what it&#8217;s called, we can&#8217;t tolerate debt or ponzi schemes. These ideas are leading America down the path to slavery.<br />
America has millions of people who do not understand the difference between slavery and freedom. God knew what He was doing when he compared us to sheep.<br />
When people understand that Washington is full of predators [and we are their prey] we will no longer be forced to sacrifice for those who do not deserve to lead us.</p>
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