Poll Shows Falling Support For Gun Control Laws, Says CCRKBA
October 14, 2009 by Personal Liberty News Desk
A new Rasmussen poll has found only 39 percent of Americans believe the country needs stricter gun laws, according to the Citizen’s Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA).
The survey comes just days after the Supreme Court announced it will hear a case on whether the right to keep and bear arms secured by the Second Amendment protects Americans.
McDonald v. City of Chicago, brought by four Chicago residents, the Second Amendment Foundation and the Illinois State Rifle Association, seeks to strike down a decades-old Chicago law that bans handguns and requires the annual taxation of firearms.
The results of the poll suggest the number of Americans in favor of gun control dropped in the last six months. Moreover, 65 percent of respondents who are Democrats support tighter gun laws while 69 percent of Republicans and 62 percent of independents do not
"The American public has wised up to the fact that prohibitive gun control measures … have not stopped violent crime and only disarm the victims," says CCRKBA chairman Alan Gottlieb.
"Americans are concerned about their personal safety and the safety of their families, and they have had it with Utopian gun bans that leave them defenseless against merciless thugs," he adds.
CCRKBA is a non-profit organization that works to preserve firearms freedoms through lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grassroots organization of local gun rights activists.
(4 votes, average: 4.50 out of 5)
Why anyone thinks that gun control is going to stop crime is really living in a fantasy world. Criminals don’t play by the rules. They are not rule followers, which is why they are criminals.
I believe in gun control use both hands and squeeeeeez the triger both eyes open double tap center mass then one to the head
Note that most Democrats, as usual, are disrespecting our freedom.
look for and read my posting
You are right about them dems amen
gun control is a socialist ajender
Another fantastic read Bob. CCRKBA and USCCA and the like are great orgs with wonderful tips and info.
As more criminals and undesirables gravitate to positions of authority in government, why wouldn’t they want to have us register every gun and know who has what. The criminals have practiced their trade for many years in our society of “compassion” and tolerance. The president and his merry men, talk about more individual responsibility and then, give the offenders a pass. Those who work hard, study and apply themselves somehow that’s not fair, they must be targeted and punished.
And let’s not give a pass to those 6 year old boy scout terrorists who bring their lethal survival weapons to show and tell. Those are the ones I’m afraid of Alice. Let’s all demand that the Washington know it all’s give the death penalty to that 6 year old criminal. Where’s Obama on this one? He sure had a lot to say about his buddy being arrested by that deranged cop. Or the reverand Al for that matter. Where’s his outrage on another example of racism? You know if it were a minority kid, he would have been water boarded and put in a dungeon without legal representation. Damn 6 year old terrorists. And steralize those parents while we’re at it. They wont be able to breed any more of them criminals.
The sleeping giant is finally awakening… Usurpers of justice and the constitution, beware. We have had enough of your nonsense.
I sure hope so, Ms. T.
Usurp This Truth
Rape of Middle class from 1980 to 2009
SOLUTIONS–
A. Remove Social Security Cap–Why should very rich pay 1/1000th and Middle Class pay 6.2%
B. Increase Dividend Tax from 15 to 28%. Capital vs Labor. Be Fair.
Coal Miner pays 28% and man sitting on butt pays 15% Labor is as important as capital.
Try doing without either.
C. Estate Tax Increase.
D. Increase Corp profit Tax.
E. Public Finance Elections.–Candidate cannot use any money except that given by the public.
F. Wall Street—Revert back to selling stock to raise funds for corporations to create jobs. Eliminate the operations which are mere Gambling in a Rich Man’s Casino. Want to gamble go to Las Vegas.
G. Rebuild strong unions to get labor a fair share of profits
Those suggestions will return us to Democratic Philosophy of PAY YOUR WAY.
Go away from Republican philosophy of– Spend and Borrow Let Kids Pay Tomorrow.
1945 to 1981–Each percentile increased in Wealth and Income almost evenly in percentage.
Reagan big tax cuts of 60% (70 to 28) for Richest, 40% to Big Corporations -Dividend Rate for Wall Street.
Tax Increases of biggest in history the Social Security Tax Increase–A Tax on elderly on 50% of Social Security Income–Five cent tax on Gas.
Bush Big Tax cuts for Very Rich.
RESULTS
from 1980 to 2007
Top 1% got 35.4% of Total Wealth Increase
Top 1% got 44.1% of Total Income Growth
In 2007 a not so pretty picture
NET WORTH
top 20% owned 85% of Total Wealth and bottom 80% owned 15%
Of nonhome wealth top 20% owned 93% and 80% owned 7%
top 20% got 60% of Total Income and 80% got 40%
It is a disaster for the future of the huge Middle Class. A small few own the majority.
Will we ever get a Congress and President willing to do what is FAIR.
Redistribute the Income and Wealth.
I fear for our future.
clarence swinney
political historian
Lifeaholics of America
author-Lifeaholic–workaholic to lifeaholic success
author unpublished-All American Party-How Democrats created a Great Middle Class
and Conservatives are determined to destroy it.
That is just what your “Messiah” B H O is doing.
Hands Clapping. Statics make it look even worse than anyone wants to admit.
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Yea, heres another democrat at work with the big brain an control
Hey, Chuck, you can’t agrue with the facts. You can’t rewrite history. Facts are easy to deal with, they can’t can’t lie.
Yep, like the fact that you Liberals want to force your lifestyles on your fellow citizens.
Mr. Eyeswideopen, Sir, you must not listen to the news or read the new history books. History can be changed. People are doing it all the time. Sad isn’t it. I am a registered democrat, but I have become disgusted with all the hogwash. People are taking our rights away and I for one am standing up to them. Right is right and wrong is wrong and this country is definitely going in the wrong direction faster than one can keep up with it. Wake up before it is too late!
Daveh, you know you are the only one using the word FORCE all the time. Government is Force, is your mantra. Well, my government might be a screwed up mess at this time, but it is still better than anarchy at any time. Why you want to give even more control to the rich is beyond me. Don’t they have enough of our money? If they just paid their own taxes (off shore accts.) I would be very happy. Just those at UBS in Switzerland are estimated to be 52,000 to the tune of 186 billion, but we can only get approx 4800 of them, as it is not illegal in Switzerland to hide from paying your taxes. I resent the rich using our infrastructure and not paying anything towards it.
Rose, sorry sweetie, you can’t change history, it is the past, you can however change the future.
You are right Dave, I would like for most people to have my life. I worked hard to achieve it, but it would make me very happy for millions to have a similar life. Allowing them to have the opportuntity for such as life is not a bad thing. I am not forcing anything on them, unlike you, who wants Corporate American to run wild with no restraints or regulations. Anarchy is something I want to avoid at all costs.
eyes, I don’t guess idiot democrat Rangel owes any back taxes
a big who-yah!
Criminal control controls criminals
Gun controls control the people
Incrementalism of gun control
Registration
Confiscation
Consentration
Annihilation
How many more rights would Americans have already lost if had been disarmed under these clowns?
Read my posting please
Mark, where is your posting?
Numbers in polls mean nothing to the clowns we have in congress and the senate, just look at the health care issue, they know a majority of the population is against it but they don’t give a damn they will pass what they want to pass its the same with gun rights and every other freedom or supposed freedom we have, those bastards are going to do what they want to do , the only way to change this is at the ballot box, vote em out on there ear, put term limits in place and try to undo the destruction the current crop has brought us.
A good start would be that those in the senate and congress be the last ones to be given the swine flu vaccine after every American receives theirs. Victory thru attrition is a beautiful thing. And should any of them prematurely expire, they can’t be buried in Arlington Cemetery. They have crosses on many of the graves there you know. And that’s according to the rules of the ACLU.
Just how can our super efficient GOV manage the registration of all guns owned by Citizens, Non Citizens, Crooks??, etc..
They cannot even manage Voter registration, that is without the efficient and well managed ACORN group.
OOPs Suspect ACORN will now be entering the Gun Control Licensing business to help out our super efficient U.S. Gov again.
I sure that woman who heads up ACORN is all for gun control. She’a afraid that she’s so cyote ugly that someone will take a shot at her. Now that would be a tragic waste of a good bullet.
Jim, depends on your super terrific state. If it is a Republican state they are all pretty desperate for money, so their bookkeeping should be pretty good at this time. lol
These polls are not orchestrated by pro-gun groups and are indicative of the beliefs of the majority. Several recent polls By CNN, USA Today and Rasmussen have shows that Americans support that the Second Amendment give individuals the “right to keep and bear arms”. A USA poll with a total of 4072200 vote showed that 97% were in favor of gun ownership. http://www.usatoday.com/news/quickquestion/2007/november/popup5895.htm
USA Today quick poll.
How can Rasmussen claim there is failing support for gun law by applying their statement?
There is a rebellion brewing because of political misuse of law to force higher cost and taxes onto the legal gun owner by redundant and mandated law that has little or no effect on criminal activity, Leno of Ca. is a perfect example of the kind of idiocy that is angering more gun owners who wish to obey the reasonable law and not be called criminal because on non compliance with ineffective law.
These kind of politicians are making more blue laws that will be used in a court of law whenever they are challeged, the chances of repeal will take years and they full well know this. These people are as much a crimianal as those who commit actual crimes with a gun and they put ordinary people in greater jeopardy by their obstinance to common sense.
This kind of politician does not deserve to hold office. Rasmussen needs to review their data.
Good point. It’s actually pretty scarey if the Rasmussen poll is accurate. I hate to think that 2 0f 5 Americans think we need more gun control!! Of course, (supposedly) about that many (45%?) think we need govt run health care too.
I read an article on how the DNA testing can be faked, is it to far a reach to conclude that you can buy what ever you want, including a poll. but facts are clear.
look for my posting………
Here is the actual poll that is being cited:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/50_oppose_stricter_gun_control_laws
Let’s reduce the number of Democrats and some of the Republicans at the 2010 elections. Let’s make believers out of the rest and choose very carefully who we elect. Keep a sharp eye on who votes on what bill.
Let us get rid of many
Put people in charge again
Rape of Middle class from 1980 to 2009
SOLUTIONS–
A. Remove Social Security Cap–Why should very rich pay 1/1000th and Middle Class pay 6.2%
B. Increase Dividend Tax from 15 to 28%. Capital vs Labor. Be Fair.
Coal Miner pays 28% and man sitting on butt pays 15% Labor is as important as capital.
Try doing without either.
C. Estate Tax Increase.
D. Increase Corp profit Tax.
E. Public Finance Elections.–Candidate cannot use any money except that given by the public.
F. Wall Street—Revert back to selling stock to raise funds for corporations to create jobs. Eliminate the operations which are mere Gambling in a Rich Man’s Casino. Want to gamble go to Las Vegas.
G. Rebuild strong unions to get labor a fair share of profits
Those suggestions will return us to Democratic Philosophy of PAY YOUR WAY.
Go away from Republican philosophy of– Spend and Borrow Let Kids Pay Tomorrow.
1945 to 1981–Each percentile increased in Wealth and Income almost evenly in percentage.
Reagan big tax cuts of 60% (70 to 28) for Richest, 40% to Big Corporations -Dividend Rate for Wall Street.
Tax Increases of biggest in history the Social Security Tax Increase–A Tax on elderly on 50% of Social Security Income–Five cent tax on Gas.
Bush Big Tax cuts for Very Rich.
RESULTS
from 1980 to 2007
Top 1% got 35.4% of Total Wealth Increase
Top 1% got 44.1% of Total Income Growth
In 2007 a not so pretty picture
NET WORTH
top 20% owned 85% of Total Wealth and bottom 80% owned 15%
Of nonhome wealth top 20% owned 93% and 80% owned 7%
top 20% got 60% of Total Income and 80% got 40%
It is a disaster for the future of the huge Middle Class. A small few own the majority.
Will we ever get a Congress and President willing to do what is FAIR.
Redistribute the Income and Wealth.
I fear for our future.
clarence swinney
political historian
Lifeaholics of America
author-Lifeaholic–workaholic to lifeaholic success
author unpublished-All American Party-How Democrats created a Great Middle Class
and Conservatives are determined to destroy it.
I am alive because I have a pistol. In 2005 a criminal member of a Mexican gang came in my home. He was high on drugs and running from police. He was 24 and a big fellow. He resembles Mike Tyson except he is Mexican. I was able to defend myself. I was 66 and no match for him without the pistol. He left in the ambulance and I did not! Those who would take away my pistol- – when a criminal invades your home, do you plan to just stand there and look stupid? What will you do? Scream?? Nobody will hear you and he will kill you FASTER if you scream! Police later found a STOLEN pistol in his car. If guns are outlawed do you suppose he would turn in his STOLEN guns? I paid for my pistol and I plan to keep it. I am alive to tell about it ONLY BECAUSE I HAD A PISTOL!
You goooooo girl!! I love hearing these stories. I wish this kind of story would be shouted across this still (somewhat) free nation!!
If you get any of the NRA magazines, each issue has a page called “The Armed Citizen” which has several stories like this. I love reading them.
Wow, good for you Eileen. I am proud of you for standing up for your self. Thank you for sharing your story. Everyone needs to hear this.
All I can say to all of this is, if you are not a member of the NRA, join now. I can think of no stronger voice on behalf of legal gun owners better to uphold the right to keep and bear arms. The only thing I would add is; if you reload your own ammo, keep loading and spend as much time at the range as possible. Get training in handgun self defense courses and become as proficient a shooter as you possibly can. Practice, practice, practice.
This is a gun-rights group that I think is more potent dollar-for-dollar than the NRA:
http://gunowners.org/
DaveH, Gunowners of America is very strong, but they haven’t achieved the strength, and recognition in Washington DC that the NRA has. We need both of them and membership to either one will help preserve the Second Amendment and freedom.
They are very militant about our gun rights. And they make it easy for their members to contact congressmen.
I got turned off on the NRA decades ago because they made the gun-rights issue seem like a sporting issue, and since most people don’t hunt the result was a great weakening of the pro-gun movement.
That is your choice, and I respect that. The ILA branch of the NRA has been very receptive to me personaly during the fight to defeat AB962 and SB585. Being a hunter and a casual target shooter, I have always looked at the NRA as supporting both fairly equaly. We need them both to preserve our freedom.
JeffH,
You should pay particular attention to the unnecessary concessions made by the NRA that the GOA doesn’t. The GOA is growing while the NRA is actually losing members. The GOA actually strikes more fear in Washington. You should also pay close attention to the JPFO (Jews for the Protection of Firearms Ownership) they have some very good videos that should be seen by ALL Americans.
I am familiar with them all. It is very important to support all of them. Without them, we will lose our Second Amendment.
Americans support the Second Amendment because our worthless government preaches freedom and practices slavery. Politicians need constant reminders, and the best reminder is the knowledge that America has weapons that our government will never be able to confiscate.
Some morons in our midst think mankind has ‘evolved’ and can do without weapons. Look at Congress. Congress is proof that Darwin was an idiot.
Our Washington power-hungry wolves need to be reminded that freedom isn’t free. They also need to remember that planned slavery will be more than ‘expensive’ to the Washington crowd – and their ‘friends.’ Any time Washington wants to test the issue, let the weasels go for it!
I love your first sentence SC. Well put.
Way to go S C!
Listen to Alan. Join the NRA. Remember that the Second Amendment makes no mention of deer hunting. The framers of the Constitution gave the People the right to keep arms for the day “they” come to take them away.
VERY WELL SAID D R
I was in Australia during the great “gun buy back” after the Port Arthur massacre.. Guess who got to keep their weapons? the criminals, that’s who.. and that will be the case here should this crazy Government get it’s way.. Beware of any attempt to regulate the second amendment.
Yes, gun laws doesn’t stop crimes, because first of all the guns the criminals have are already illegal, like the AK 47 and other machine guns.We just have to make sure no lunatics are allowed to get their hands on dangerous weapons.
I agree somewhat with you comment, except that AK 47′s are machine guns. Yes, there are fully automatic AK 47′s, just not for sale to anyone that wants one.
To generalize is exactly what the anti-gun advocates do. Fully automatic rifles are not available to the general gun buyers, only to Class III license holders. Just because a rifle or pistol looks “bad” doesn’t mean that they are. There are plenty of AK 47′s and AR 15′s that are nothing more than one shot semi-auto rifles used for target shooting and hunting.
It amazes me how many people are afraid of gun-owners, but they do not seem to have a problem with the police carrying guns. And the police shoot the wrong person far more often than the private citizens do. I’m not putting down police, it is just reality. The actual victims of the crime know far better who the criminal is at the scene than the Johnny-come-lately police do. Also, the police are much less likely to suffer severe repercussions for wrongful shootings than are the private citizens.
DaveH, It is sad that people can have such fear of gun owners. If some would ever attend training facilities like the Front Sight Training institute, created by Dr. Ignatius Piazza, in Las Vegas
or Gunsight Academy, founded by the great Col. Jeff Cooper, in Arizona
Both are extrordinary educators in gun safety, training of civilians, police, military and foreign civilians, police and military.
They not only offer various types of defensive training, but also educate to overcome the fear of guns.
People are afraid, as they read the crap on posts like these and you expect them to feel safe when a bunch of nuts are talking about going to DC and take back our country, can’t wait for the election as then it will be too late. Are you serious, we scare the hell out of normal non gun owning people. We sound like a bunch of hotheads who are radical. How can you be incredious? Don’t you read this stuff? You are just becoming numb. Or you are radical along with them and don’t see anything wrong with the ass kicking and them’s a fighten words. You don’t want the other side to even have the right to speak, and yet you can’t see why anyone would think you are radical in your thinking? And that is why they don’t want us to have guns.
The reason the government wants to have control and strict gun laws that they propose, is so that they will have control over the American people. Remember how Hitler came into control.
The gun laws that are on the books and enforced are enough. We do not need Government control. From the Brady camp on down thru the years they were howlong ” GUN CONTROL”, THEY SHOULD REALIZE THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS PENALIZED IS THE HONEST LAW ABIDING CITIZEN, GUN CONTROL HELPS ONLY THE CRIMNAL AND THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE OVER OUR LIVES. WE NEED TO CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT, THEY TOOK A OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTUTION AND ALL THEY DO IS TRASH IT
Christy I agree you with 100%. We need to vote the ones that are in OUT. Then we need to demand term limits.
CCG, politicians are weasels. You have to impose your own ‘term limits’ by never letting ANYONE have consecutive terms. As long as we use good intentions, politicians will ALWAYS have the upper hand.
Besides, no one should think our weasels in Congress would EVER impose term limits on themelves. That would be like a criminal having enough integrity or honor to do the right thing. Politicians can’t be trusted. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Why make it easy for people who have NO USE for us? Give responsible people a chance to get into politics. NEVER GIVE A ANYONE A CHANCE TO BECOME A CAREER POLITICIAN! SOLVE THE PROBLEM!
I gotta tell ya, In the words of the Late GREAT JOHN WAYNE;
“The reason they made the second ammendment was just in case they forget the rest of em”
Thats right pilgrim! If the anti-gun legislators weren’t such “COWARDS”, they would insist on enforcing the current anti-crime laws and go after criminals instead of trying to force the honest citizen into breaking the law. It is easier to find and arrest an honest law abiding citizen. Think about it?
dead on!!!john wayne was a real american,god bless em!
I believe in gun control. Every body should be able to hit a 300 yard moving target. Let’s not lose this freedom.
gun control is hitting what you aim at
As far as Gun control, you may want to take alook at this Administrations back door Gun Grab inside a tax bill as listed below
It begins… more Freedom gone… the right to protect yourself and your family gone! Now ALL GUNS must be listed on your next (2010) tax return! Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 ~ 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on February 24, 2009, by the Obama staff. BUT, this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all.
Trust Obama? You must be kidding! The full text of the IRS amendment
is on the U.S. Senate homepage: http://www.senate.gov. You can find the bill by doing a
search by the bill number, SB-2099. You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.
Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text
Obama’s Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it
passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don’t fully comply. It has begun.
Whatever Obama’s “Secret Master Plan” is… this is just the ‘tip of the
iceberg!’
Very Important for you to
be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This
is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act
of 2009. Even gun shop owners didn’t know about this because the government is
trying to fly it under the radar as a ‘minor’ IRS revision, and, as usual, the ‘political’lawmakers did not read this bill before signing and approving it!
To find out about this go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.
Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm ~ any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
1) It is registered
2) You are finerprinted
3) You supply a current Driver’s License
4) You supply your Social Security number
5) You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their
choosing Each update change or > ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25. Failure to do so, you automatically lose the
right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.
There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. > Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under
18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 years in prison.
If you think this is a joke ~ go to the web site and take your pick of many
options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass
this along.
This is just a “termite” approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense ~ chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes
it.. This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not..
Secondly, We the Christian Americans that actually Love our Christian Nation.
And your point is? There is nothing ridiculous about the requirements. Even paying a $25.00 xfer fee is not unjust, every time you xfer a vehicle you have to pay a title transfer. This is after all, a fire arm. A gun has the ability to kill recklessly. As a person who already has a carry permit, this is no different. We have alread discussed this issue on this site, and most of the gun owners didn’t have a problem with registering, or reporting a lost or stolen gun. Responsible gun ownership is how you get the general public who doesn’t deal with firearms to feel safe and confident that you know how and when to handle a gun. Local politican in this city, had his gun stolen and didn’t report it for two days. He hadn’t bothered to lock it in his trunk, he left car unlocked with gun in console. That type of ownership gives everyone a black eye. It was recovered during commission of crime. Polls are showing that more people are acknowledging that gun ownership, by responsible owners is not something that should be banned. What part about the HR45 don’t you like? The fingerprinting? Not guilty–no problem.
Only thing you are guilty of, IS BEING AN IDIOT, JUST LIKE MOST OF THEM IN WASHINGTON
Remember that Surgeon General dressed in the Salvation Army uniform years ago? When asked about gun violence she offered this profound solution ” We have to start making safer bullets.”. Considering the bunch we have in Washington now, I’d say she would be the sharpest tack in the pack today.
A gun in the hand is worth more than a police officer on the telephone.
well said!
Friends want you to have guns.
Enemies don’t!
Free people have guns.
Slaves don’t!
Get the picture!!!!!!!!!!
Democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep contesting the vote.–Benjamin Franklin
It’s looking more and more like we are about to have a huge crop of OUTLAWS pop up in our great nation. But you know what’s really sad? They were all law abiding people at one time. Hard working, honest folks with integrity. The kind of person who’s hand shake was worth more than any lawyer prepared contract. The kind of neighbors that we trusted so much that we never locked our house’s or garage because they might want to borrow something. That way of life was the most precious of memories for me.
All those in favor of using ‘lead’ bullets say “I”
Aye!
I!
“I”
NAY. Do you still carry the bulky old mobile phones? Techno is upon us and high tech rifles require high tech bullets. We need to petition the retailers for lower prices. Not enough competiton according to DAveH, that is the solution for everything.
Eyeswideshut,
You are free to buy your expensive non-lead ammo. If you can’t find it in the stores, then reload your own. You can also join forces with
your Liberal buds to form your own companies producing “high-tech” ammo.
Nobody is trying to take your freedom away. Quite to the contrary, it is you who advocates freedom-taking.
DaveH, eyes is a sick person that surely is blind and also deaf he doesn’t know beans from bullets.
SB2099 doesn’t exist. There was a similarly numbered bill introduced in 2000 but it never got out of committee. More info here:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/taxreturns.
The Second Amendment Foundation is another premier 2A proponent worth supporting. They were instrumental in getting the Heller v DC case to the SCOTUS and also the McDonald v Chicago case which SCOTUS recently agreed to hear.
Another thing you can do to spread the ideals of Freedom and the principles upon which our country was founded is to order copies of the Pocketguide to the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution from The Heritage Foundation. They’re $.50/each. Distribute them to as many people as you can especially teenagers and those in their 20′s.
HR45 was introduced by some dufus in Congress but it hasn’t made it out of committee and has not picked even one co-sponsor. It’s not a threat in the immediate future.
“Only 39% of Americans support stricter gun control laws.” I agree that is amazing. How can that many americans be so ignorant on our country’s founding and the Bill of Rights. Our fantastic, Socialist educational system, that’s how. Once we successfully fight off all the other threats to our freedoms and Republic like Gov’t run Healthcare, Cap and Tax, ANOTHER Stimulus bill and so forth, we need to direct our attention to taking back our schools. Where’s the Feds authority in the US Constitution to even be involved in Education. The responsibility for education should be with the parents within their own school districts in their local communitites.
I could go on but I’m sure ya’ll are already tired of hearing from me.
God Save America from the current Fascist onslaught.
What you say is true. I have checked this out numerous times thru the NRA/ILA and it is a dead player.
Paladin.
Don’t ever stop. Post as often and in as many places as time and energy permits.
(Provides valuable information to those in need and saves the rest of us a lot of work. Thank you.)
Sometime back I ordered several copies of the Pocketguide to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States from The Heritage Foundation.
After receiving my copies I sent an additional donation.
While highly appreciative that the Heritage Foundation offers the Pocketguide, I was rather disappointed to find a highly-pertinent omission and emailed them accordingly.
The guides did not include the PREAMBLE to The First 10 Amendments to the Constitution as Ratified by the States December 15, 1791, which states the following;
PREAMBLE Congress OF THE United States.
“THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution..”
[http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html]
Pity I think that those who wrote and ratified the Amendments bothered to pen an explanation citing the very purpose and intent of the Amendments themselves, only to have their words overlooked, unmentioned and among far too many… virtually unknown.
My sister had the same thing happen. I told her that the Heritage Foundation is supposed to be first class group. Told her she must have received a rejected copy accidentally. But now I see that they have intentionally left the Preamble out. Exclusion is how the uninformed become even less so. Why should we be surprised, they are now editing the Bible.
eyeswideopen
THEY have been editing the bible since 4ad,paul was a roman, and the bulk of the bible was manipulated then, in the 300′s they left out all but 4 gospels. there is informational videos you can look up just type in the historical jesus.
in any case, the government is misinterpreting the constitution to their better end, and re-writing and amending the he–ck out of it.
THEY put new meaning to old words, THEY are gaining control by our many fears and biases.
the muiskateers said one for all and all for one… hey
do you think we ought to protect the rights of one, for the sake of the freedom of the many?
how would that play out?
vote everyone unamerican so and so out of office, take a hand ballot [ i dont trust computers that can be hacked, and are designed and managed by the very people we dont want in power in the first place…
but anyhow eyes, you’ll be ok.
Subjective,
You can find a more complete pocket version of the Declaration of Independence and of the Constitution at:
http://www.catostore.org/index.asp?fa=ProductDetails&pid=144278-A
It’s quite a bit more expensive though unless you buy in large bulk.
Oh yea, forgot.
I.
More info from senate.gov re. the so-called SB-2099. Note that the Senate doesn’t use SB to identify their bills. They use S.XXXX. There’s a lot of BS being distributed on the internet regarding gun bills and so forth so just check them out before you add to the confusion.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/SB2099.shtml
Thank you.
Is it true that . . . Senate Bill SB-2099 will require owners of firearms to pay a $50 charge per gun and list each gun on their federal tax form?
The answer is no. This Internet rumor states that SB-2099 is legislation currently being considered by the Senate. The bill supposedly requires owners of firearms to list on their 1040 tax return all guns they own and then pay a $50 charge per firearm. There is no such legislation by this name in the 111th Congress.
The facts:
The last bill given the number S. 2099 was in the 105th Congress. This bill dealt with federal sentencing guidelines for counterfeiting offenses.
Thanks for the correct info.
There is to many gun laws already and there are not being enforced
Would be in faver of a gun law for every legal citizen with no crimal record to have to own a gun and know how to use it.
Who would you have watch your house and keep it safe there are not enough ploice to watch every house anyway and the you could cut your police force by about two thirds save alot of money.
We don’t have the right to go in someones home and bother there property or tell them what to do and we don’t want them to tell us or bother our property. we may not be teaching our children to respect other peoples property and rights.
How about that. Yall got de rite idea. one suggestion (or mebby 2). google Gun Facts 5.0 and read. Then use this well doocumented piece to educate every one around you. As to these employees of ours in public office, the people must vote and be educated. The mass media has been brainwashing the public for many years. That must be overcome with facts. Another possible solution is to join an organization like Veto now. Visit them at vetonow.com. and join. they advocate taking our government back one donkeys rear end at a time. we will tell you how. their e-mail address is in the article. Good luck and God bless. (try googling On Sheep, Wolves and Sheepdogs by Dave Grossman also. it is a very good analogy. From an old bent and scarred but not broken sheepdog.
Sure are alot of smart people in here. I like being around smart people, I don’t have to try and explain the importance of these matters. But I’ll go ahead and put 2 cents in. It makes all the difference in the world to try and make people see what damages have been AND will be done if these “bought” politicians get their way. Whether or not an individual likes the idea of having a weapon around them doesn’t really matter. If you don’t like them, you don’t have to own one. That’s the beautiful thing about Freedom, CHOICE. The trouble is, there is a whole lot more at stake than individual safety. It is just so hard to get people to understand that. If you DON’T like the idea of someone “packing heat” don’t ask. I’ve also read alot of postings that claim individuals that practice their rights are compensating for their lack of confidence or some other form of inferiority. It is really funny that when we retaliate by stating LEO’s have no obligation to protect any one individual and it is up to that individual themselves to provide their own safety, they resort back to name calling and insults. Anyways, nice to see so many people with common sense. Keep it up.
You all have to pay close attention to Paladin.
He’s right on so many levels. The internet is a God send when it comes to information and the FREEDOM OF SPEACH. However, it is also loaded with RUMORS AND PROPAGANDA (i don’t know if I spelled that right).
Those of you who served in our military might remember the classes you took regarding RUMORS & PROPAGANDA. Well, our nations schools threw all that stuff out the window and are now using it almost entirely to educate our children all the way through college level. It started a long time ago and is known as the “dumbing down of America”. Well, guess what? We now have a large portion of our population who haven’t a clue as to the meaning of the ‘Bill of Rights’, The ‘Declaration of Independance’ or even what America really stands for. It’s no wonder then that we are so devided on issues that would normally be a ‘No Brainer’
WAKE UP AMERICA
amen!
Commendations are in order for the totality of individuals involved with the Personal Liberty Digest, on numerous counts.
Heartening to see the wording in the second paragraph…’whether the right to keep and bear arms ‘secured’ by the Second amendment protects Americans’.
( often the word ‘guaranteed’ is used which is incorrect, and in other instances the word ‘granted’ is used, which is so blatantly erroneous as to reveal the historical ignorance of any person so foolish as to use it. )
In context of the article, allow that I might rephrase, ‘whether the right of the citizens in America to keep and bear arms as secured by the Second Amendment against any infringement by those in the federal government, will also be extended to protect American citizens from violations of this right by authorities within local and State governments.’
Personally, I would have much preferred this issue be settled either locally or within the confines of the State of Illinois, for reasons nearly too numerous to list individually.
I will say however, that on the basis of the most rudimentary principles embodied as that of a Constitutional Republic,–( rights of the individual and limited powers afforded only to government by consent of the people )–for officials and authorities on any level of government to make it illegal for law-abiding citizens to keep and bear at least the same arms that criminals will freely use against them, is not only an intentional violation of rights by government–but such laws are immoral from their very inception.
( for those who may not know, the very basis of an actual criminal act involves intentional violation of another person’s rights.
All forms of government in America are instituted for the primary purpose of ‘securing’ rights of the individual–exactly those same rights which a person has without the existence of any government at all. The right of Freemen in America to keep and bear arms is the oldest, most continual and most sacred of any and all rights.)
On the matter of regaining some obviously necessary restraints over the actions of those within the federal government;
“A government having control of both the National Purse and a Standing Army can neither be held in check, nor can it be persuaded to abide by the terms of the contract which brought about its existence—regardless of the number of citizens who still retain their arms.
The only viable method by which the Federal government can be returned to a government by and for the people under the restraints imposed by the U.S. Constitution, is to repeal the very power those in the Federal Congress so magnanimously granted for government…
a power which it was never intended to have, and thus required a Constitutional amendment to acquire.
No truer words have ever been spoken than ‘the power to tax is the power to destroy’
The 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution must therefore be repealed and a fair tax system implemented.
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_main
Subjective,
Don’t you know that the Liberals don’t want to pay their Fair share? They only want to receive their Fair share.
Generalize too much. Force is government!! Force is generalizing too much about anybody or anything!!!!
I’m a conservative who believes in “Gun Control”. Use two hands and practice!
Let me say I’m in favor of gun control laws.
I believe the existing laws are woefully inadequate and would like to abolish all existing laws and replace the with one comprehensive law.
A law that requires every citizen to own a gun, and that firearm safety be a required class to receive a high school diploma along with a course on the constitution.