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	<title>Comments on: Marriage Refusal Questions Extent Of Government&#8217;s Right To Intervene In Personal Life</title>
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		<title>By: Albert Nygren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Nygren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 04:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eyes wide open says that a Justice of the Peace has to marry anyone because he is licensed by the state. He goes on to say that Priests and Protestant Ministers can refuse to marry people because they aren&#039;t licensed by the state. Yes they are or they can&#039;t marry people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eyes wide open says that a Justice of the Peace has to marry anyone because he is licensed by the state. He goes on to say that Priests and Protestant Ministers can refuse to marry people because they aren&#8217;t licensed by the state. Yes they are or they can&#8217;t marry people.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Nygren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Nygren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynn, you are mistaken about many things. I won&#039;t try to have a rational discussion because your memo seems highly emotional, hate filled, and irrational. For your information, no where in the Bible does it say that the sun revolves around the earth. Until Galileo. everyone thought the sun revolves around the earth because to the eye, it seemed that way.

The Church did for a time say that Galileo was wrong because Jesus was crucified on earth and they thought it would be improper for the earth to revolve around the sun. Later they realized their mistake and said so.

I said that Homosexuality and Lesbianism used to be considered a sexual deviancy. When I took my abnormal psych class at the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee in 1967, that was how they were listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual that psychologists and psychiatrists that they make their diagnoses from. That is just a fact, not my opinion.

You say that I may have some anecdotal knowledge but no statistical knowledge base on scientific studies. 1st, you don&#039;t know that. 2nd, if you knew about statistics and about scientific studies, you would know that scientific studies have to have certain methodologies to have the results be valid. It is impossible to do scientific research using those methodology because there are ethical limits to what you can do with people.

Also, you should be aware that people who know about statistics know that they can be twisted around to seem to prove anything you want. That&#039;s why they may have this as an aphorism: In a descending order, there are: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Also the latest research shows that it is very hard for a single parent of any gender raise children due to their subconscious need for role models.The people who did this research concluded that they were wrong when they said that having parents that argued was worce than having parents that were divorced. For this reason they encouraged married people to stay married, even if they were unhappy in the marriage because it was so important for the children</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn, you are mistaken about many things. I won&#8217;t try to have a rational discussion because your memo seems highly emotional, hate filled, and irrational. For your information, no where in the Bible does it say that the sun revolves around the earth. Until Galileo. everyone thought the sun revolves around the earth because to the eye, it seemed that way.</p>
<p>The Church did for a time say that Galileo was wrong because Jesus was crucified on earth and they thought it would be improper for the earth to revolve around the sun. Later they realized their mistake and said so.</p>
<p>I said that Homosexuality and Lesbianism used to be considered a sexual deviancy. When I took my abnormal psych class at the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee in 1967, that was how they were listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual that psychologists and psychiatrists that they make their diagnoses from. That is just a fact, not my opinion.</p>
<p>You say that I may have some anecdotal knowledge but no statistical knowledge base on scientific studies. 1st, you don&#8217;t know that. 2nd, if you knew about statistics and about scientific studies, you would know that scientific studies have to have certain methodologies to have the results be valid. It is impossible to do scientific research using those methodology because there are ethical limits to what you can do with people.</p>
<p>Also, you should be aware that people who know about statistics know that they can be twisted around to seem to prove anything you want. That&#8217;s why they may have this as an aphorism: In a descending order, there are: lies, damned lies, and statistics.</p>
<p>Also the latest research shows that it is very hard for a single parent of any gender raise children due to their subconscious need for role models.The people who did this research concluded that they were wrong when they said that having parents that argued was worce than having parents that were divorced. For this reason they encouraged married people to stay married, even if they were unhappy in the marriage because it was so important for the children</p>
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		<title>By: m2o</title>
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		<dc:creator>m2o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope by now this Justice of the Peace in Louisiana Keith Bardwell is removed. I hope this couple did start a lawsuit.
Divide &amp; conquer, kill all love on planet earth = is their agenda.
Now, let&#039;s all kill them with LOVE.  It will 100% kill them, because
it is most alien to greed &amp; power.  They will choke on it for sure.
We got the POWER, the power of love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope by now this Justice of the Peace in Louisiana Keith Bardwell is removed. I hope this couple did start a lawsuit.<br />
Divide &amp; conquer, kill all love on planet earth = is their agenda.<br />
Now, let&#8217;s all kill them with LOVE.  It will 100% kill them, because<br />
it is most alien to greed &amp; power.  They will choke on it for sure.<br />
We got the POWER, the power of love.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, this guy is a government employee.  Denying or passing legislature against interracial marriage has been illegal since Loving V. Virginia.  It is not his call to make choices on things like this, it is the law.  If his beliefs interfere with his ability to perform his duty as a justice of the peace, he should (and I think has) resign.  That&#039;s it. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, this guy is a government employee.  Denying or passing legislature against interracial marriage has been illegal since Loving V. Virginia.  It is not his call to make choices on things like this, it is the law.  If his beliefs interfere with his ability to perform his duty as a justice of the peace, he should (and I think has) resign.  That&#8217;s it. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter Payton died of a rare liver disease that quickly excluded the possibility of a transplant and probably contributed to his getting bile duct cancer on top of it. There is no scientific reason that mixing of &quot;the bloods&quot; would prevent a mixed race person from receiving adequate medical care.  Most genetic disorders that are predominantly carried by one race would in fact have a diminished chance of appearing in a mixed race child because most of these diseases need two parents with the recessive gene to be present in order for the gene to be expressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter Payton died of a rare liver disease that quickly excluded the possibility of a transplant and probably contributed to his getting bile duct cancer on top of it. There is no scientific reason that mixing of &#8220;the bloods&#8221; would prevent a mixed race person from receiving adequate medical care.  Most genetic disorders that are predominantly carried by one race would in fact have a diminished chance of appearing in a mixed race child because most of these diseases need two parents with the recessive gene to be present in order for the gene to be expressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Fleischer</title>
		<link>http://www.personalliberty.com/news/marriage-refusal-questions-extent-of-governments-right-to-intervene-in-personal-life-19418452/#comment-43999</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Fleischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is ironic that you guys are discussing &quot;marriage&quot; on the website of a man who abandoned his wedding voews by having repeated illicit affairs and only resigned the Speaker of the House position when he was outed for those multiple, multiple affairs.
You Family Values crowd are a hoot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is ironic that you guys are discussing &#8220;marriage&#8221; on the website of a man who abandoned his wedding voews by having repeated illicit affairs and only resigned the Speaker of the House position when he was outed for those multiple, multiple affairs.<br />
You Family Values crowd are a hoot!</p>
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		<title>By: libertytrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>libertytrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eyes, I wasn&#039;t confused.  My discussion started with me saying the Priest didn&#039;t have to marry the couple from a different parish --no matter how crummy we feel about it - You then took it to a different &quot;governmental&quot; direction.  I said Church and government were not the same  --- I&#039;m sorry if the explanation of the Catholic Church&#039;s rights and choices with regards to granting permission to marry in a different parish than one belongs to wasn&#039;t clear to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eyes, I wasn&#8217;t confused.  My discussion started with me saying the Priest didn&#8217;t have to marry the couple from a different parish &#8211;no matter how crummy we feel about it &#8211; You then took it to a different &#8220;governmental&#8221; direction.  I said Church and government were not the same  &#8212; I&#8217;m sorry if the explanation of the Catholic Church&#8217;s rights and choices with regards to granting permission to marry in a different parish than one belongs to wasn&#8217;t clear to you.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeswideopen</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyeswideopen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberty, I see why you are confused, when I made statement about state licensing, I meant the justice of the peace cannot be predjuice. Churches can and will decide who to marry. They are not licensed by the state as the service is not a civil service performed. I did not elaborate enough when I made the statement. You thought I was referring to the church, I wasn&#039;t, I was stating that the justice had to marry the young couple. I finally got what you were trying to do. Sorry, I missed your point. I do think it is sad that American was treated that way, especially after her parents had even paid for her schooling there. I will be more cautious when making short statements to make sure that I am more clear on my intent. Once again, thank you for persevering, I hate to be misunderstood. I was faulty in not clarifing my statement about the justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberty, I see why you are confused, when I made statement about state licensing, I meant the justice of the peace cannot be predjuice. Churches can and will decide who to marry. They are not licensed by the state as the service is not a civil service performed. I did not elaborate enough when I made the statement. You thought I was referring to the church, I wasn&#8217;t, I was stating that the justice had to marry the young couple. I finally got what you were trying to do. Sorry, I missed your point. I do think it is sad that American was treated that way, especially after her parents had even paid for her schooling there. I will be more cautious when making short statements to make sure that I am more clear on my intent. Once again, thank you for persevering, I hate to be misunderstood. I was faulty in not clarifing my statement about the justice.</p>
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		<title>By: libertytrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>libertytrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eyes, thank you.  That&#039;s all I said.  Never doubted the justice of the peace or government entities obligations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eyes, thank you.  That&#8217;s all I said.  Never doubted the justice of the peace or government entities obligations.</p>
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		<title>By: eyeswideopen</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyeswideopen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A church can decide who to marry, a justice of the peace cannot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A church can decide who to marry, a justice of the peace cannot.</p>
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