Breaking Their Oath
June 14, 2010 by Bob Livingston
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”—Text of the oath of office for President of the United States (U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1)
“I, (AB), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”—Text of the oath of office for members of Congress
“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence—Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution
The President and members of Congress have failed to live up to their oaths of office because there’s an invasion of the United States underway through the Southwestern border and nothing is being done to stop it.
The invasion is not new, and it’s not just the current President and Congress that’s culpable, but the ones who served before, the ones before that and the ones before that. It’s been going on for years.
But now it’s finally come to a head.
Arizonans are fed up—and with good reason. Phoenix is the nation’s kidnapping capital and almost of all of the kidnappings involve illegal aliens and Mexican drug cartels. Arizona residents have been robbed, raped and murdered and ranchers have seen their livestock killed, maimed and stolen by illegals.
Arizonans have reported seeing Mexican police and military crossing the border indiscriminately. Mexican troops have been seen on the U.S. side of the border in vehicles and helicopters. U.S. Border patrol has even had shootouts with what they believed to be Mexican military.
Meanwhile, the economy of Arizona—and the other Border States—has suffered because of the burden caused by illegal immigration.
Calling out to the Federal government, which is constitutionally tasked to defend the borders, has not helped Arizona… or Texas or New Mexico or California. The invasion continued as Presidents issued platitudes about immigration reform—while refusing to enforce existing Federal immigration laws—and Congress dithered.
So Arizona took the only step it could. The Governor pushed and the Legislature passed a bill that made being illegal in Arizona illegal. The law virtually mirrors U.S. immigration law.
Contrary to what you’ve heard from the scaremongering purveyors of political correctness, the law does not encourage profiling, nor does it mimic Nazi-era “Show me your papers, please” controls, as the detractors suggest.
A provision of the law reads: “For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency…where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person…”
As University of Missouri Kansas City Law School professor Kris Kobach told columnist Byron York, the term lawful contact means the officer must already be engaged in some type of detention of an individual because he has violated some other law.
So then the officer can ask for identification… just as the officer would ask of anyone else. And Federal law has for more than 60 years required non-citizens to carry with them documents—a green card, work visa, etc.—proving they are here legally.
Yet President Barack Obama calls the law “misguided” and promised to have his Attorney General seek to overturn it. His Attorney General opposes the law, but says he hasn’t read it. And Obama’s head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) says the law is not “good government” and his department wouldn’t help Arizona enforce it.
And neither Democrats nor Republicans have made any effort to close the borders to stem the tide of illegals despite the calls by residents of Border States—and American citizens across the country—to do so and despite the threat that someone could use our porous border security as a way to smuggle in terrorists and their weapons.
Right thinking people ask of the fascists in power, “What part of illegal don’t you understand?”
Know this: They understand perfectly. They just don’t like it because it doesn’t fit in with their—or their sugar daddies’—agenda.
Republicans don’t want to stem the influx of illegals because they fear offending voters of Hispanic descent and losing what little of the Hispanic vote they get. Their sugar daddies—and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Big Business, Big Agriculture and homebuilders—like the influx of illegals because they provide a ready pool of labor they can hire at slave wages.
Democrats like the influx of illegals because they provide a growing class of dependents—people ready to feed at the public trough and one day become good Democrat voters. Their sugar daddies—Big Oil, Big Business, Big Pharma, Big Agriculture and homebuilders—like the influx of illegals for the same reason Republican sugar daddies like them… slave labor.
Democrats also like the influx of illegals because labor unions do. Labor unions like the influx of illegals because they provide a pool from which unions can increase their membership—and therefore increase union coffers—and offset their declining numbers.
And all of them like the influx of illegals because of the turmoil the immigration issue creates—pitting American against American and balkanizing the country—which gives them an issue with which to stir up their base. This allows the fascists to grasp more power.
Besides: What’s to hold a politician to an oath? The words of the fascist class mean nothing. They’ll say and do anything for more control.
I invite each and everyone to look up the law in California that pertains to Illegal Immigrants and you will find that the State of California is remiss also in the law which is basically a mirror image of Arizona’s law just passed. Keep in mind that the state of California is run by the Democrat party.
go to see ca law 834B of the Penal Code and then determine whether or not Arizona should ;be singled out or if Jerry Brown, Newsom, Villagroso and any one else in the State should be accused of not protecting their state and the Citizens that live within
You only have it half right Bargal, you forgot to say that “Mexifornia” is moraly, physically, and mentally bankrupt. With all of the transvestites, gays, cross dressers, and freaks in that state,it’s a wonder anybody wants to live there, not to mention the uncontrolled crime from the gangs, and now they have legalized Marijuana. Think about it. They even have a governor that struggles speaking english. Hmmm. what would a mexican Austrian dialect sound like? Maybe they could cross breed.
Lets see, we’ll closely guard the southern border, but the north, east, and west, not that the other 3rd world countries are send all their people from china, russia, and others. Lets just focus on Mexico. Smart
Well, we have to START somewhere. This is the beginning of a necessary trend.
Tony; What part of the “porous border” do you not understand? Please do not turn this into a geography lesson! Anyone, including terrorists, will choose the path of least resistance, which, right now, is south.
Also, the ones coming into the United States from Canada aren’t doing the amount of stealing and bringing in their poor hygenic ways that the illegals from Mexico are. The illegals from Mexico are trashing our land, as well as our economy. I realize they aren’t solely responsible for our economic woes, but they sure don’t help when they come over here with their hands out and expect them to be filled up with freebies, that by the way they are getting.
Tony,
Nearly 20% of the crossings over the mexican border are
non-mexican. Many of the terrorist choose that route.
Those entering from China and Russia usually catch a flight
in to a regular Int’l US airport with customs and go through
the legal immigration process.
Tony,
We have to focus on the southern border because that’s where we are being overrun by hordes of illegals. We don’t have mass illegal immigration happening from the north (at least not yet).
Canadians don’t flood into our country illegally because their government hasn’t regulated their economy into the deep dark hole like Mexican leaders have. We should pay heed to the mess that Mexico is in and try to not imitate their mistakes.
Let’s not bring IMMIGRATION into it. An ALIEN RESIDENT is not an immigrant. We already have a system in place for those who are here LEGALLY and want to become CITIZENS of the United States of America.
Read more: http://www.gopusa.com/fresh-ink/2010/06/gov-brewer-on-anchor-babies.php#ixzz0qqMCdUlx
Tony, their may be a 100 illegals a month slip in from the north east and west, there are 10000 to 20000 most likely more, a day from mexico but canada and their people do not want to come here and they do not help illegal cross the border, canada enforces their law unlike mexico that incourage illegal immigration, and help mexican citizen get across our border to so we not them have to feed them
We must protect all our borders but the southern one os a broken dam letting in a flood. As a Southern California resident the illegal population is obvious. They are by their very presence overwhelming our schools, hospitals, and other public resources. Gang violence threatens public safety. In some areas women are afraid to go into a Home Depot alone because of the crowd of day laborers surrounding the parking lots. The claim that they take jobs no one else wants is false. If they weren’t underpricing everyone employers would have to pay Americans real wages to get work done.
Our schools are a disgrace. In many, there are so few speakers of English that American students suffer with second class educations because language issues and a cultural lack of interest in learning that taints the atmosphere of what schools should be.
Many illegals and their legal relatives here consider California “Occupied Mexico” and believe they are taking back what is rightfully theirs. Many of us are tired of being perceived as foreigners in our own country when we go to certain areas. I am REALLY tired of “press 1 for English” and seeing election and other government forms in English and spanish. No other ethnic group gets or expects that privilege. If people want to live in a Spanish speaking country STAY HOME. If they want to live here, get on line, come legally, and get with the culture.
Illegals from south of the border are not the only problem, however. California also has a large number of illegals from Israel and Eastern Europe, many of who are involved with serious criminal activities. Asian gangs engage in brutal violence and make it difficult for honest ones to get legitimate visas to visit the US. Middle Eastern militants are going to be a threat for decades to come.
With modern computer technology we should be able to carefully restrict who gets a visa and who gets off every airplane.
As far as illegal border crossings are concerned, perhaps we should shift our priorities and bring troops home from Europe who are defending against very unlikely threats and let them protect our borders at home. The Europeans can afford to take more responsibility for their own defense.
The flood of illegals is a problem so profound that few appreciate its magnitude. It truly threatens the fabric of our society and must be dealt with.
Just being curious. If there are anywhere between 10,000 to 20,000 illegal crossings per day into Arizona, Texas, or even California. Would it not be safe to say, these persons are by some means given permission without prosecution and that there is a system in place which has someone’s approval besides the governments sanctions and most importantly, if there are this many per day as you say, would their numbers be visible to the naked eye? If the illegals are stealing and raping and killing on a daily basis, are they doing this to Americans? The rate you say in numbers would suggest that in a week, there would be 70 to 140,000 crossings a week and in a year, almost 7,280.000. My God, if that has been going on sense over ten years to date, then it is assumed that all of the citizens of Mexico live hear plus people as far away as Argentina. If this has gone unabated so far and we seem to believe that our politicians are reaping the benefits as well as our corporations, then I believe that our frustrations should not be directed at the illegals who are being given a free pass to enter this country, but to expose the illegal operations of the agencies in our country which are providing access to these people of foreign nationalities by exposing the corporations as well as the individual persons. You might find out that some of these people are your Fathers and uncles and Mothers and friends as well as the republican and democrat living next door to you. Are you willing to expose them? You speak of such disgust at the current problems, but you have not the courage to take a stand, cause that same illegal person you confess to hate, is probably cutting your grass or taking care of your children for $8.00 an hour that you know is illegal, but you continue to hire them instead of giving a fellow American a job, and God knows that we basically have three major races of Americans here at Home, White, Black and Hispanic and none of these legal people of color has a decent job affording a decent days wages. If you can not resolve the current issue, then do not damn the ones who can.
By all accounts, it is the southern border that is being inundated with illegals. Yet, we need to secure our “borders.” The first, and most important, though, is the southern border. With that, there is no argument.
Tony Where do you live? Ever been acros the northern border? I Live in Buffalo NY, In order to cross into canada OR come back, We Citizens have to show our papers and tell them our business for crossing the border.
The North border here in NY is Protected Quite well! Don’t know how the other northern states are, But The Southern Border is a MAJOR Problem! We don’t have poor Canadian’s comming here and getting Free social services, But we Sure do get enough Hispanics (mexicans) here and here in NY? We give out the Most in Social services so they FLOCK here! Which is One reason why NY government is Broke!
Tony: You are a sensible person !…….Don’t let the “Hang mob” discourage your beliefs….they sound so hateful !
Another Liberal,
Give it up. Your juvenile name-calling is useless against intelligent people.
Are you sure you are an American? Sound like another illegal to me.
amer citizen,you need to give it up!i’ve seen you on these comment sites for several weeks now, with the same old crap that no one agrees with! GET A LIFE!
American Citizen AKA American Liberal.
Hateful? No, it’s fools like you who are hateful. If somebody was to break into your home and decide they were going to steal whatever they wanted would you just let them go ahead, or would you be “hateful” and try to stop them? These mexicsns are here to steal anything and everything they can while idiotic imbeciles like you are ready to let them.
Tony, Russia and China are hardly third world. Think, try to sound like you have an IQ above 65.
Wayne,…you are the one that is on this site day and night,
so “YOU ARE THE ONE NEEDS TO GET A LIFE” ! And your memory sucks,
because I have not been on this site for several weeks as you say. Don’t open your pie unless you have the right facts or memory power!
Quit attacking people for their right of opinions, you want everyone to
agree with you,……BUT THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN! We should all give our personal opinions on how to solve our Country’s needs,…. We are not all going to agree with Wayne!!
If anyone disagrees w/ the rightwing chatter and very often hate speech here,then they are attacked as ‘liberal’,'communist’,'marxist’,'fascist’,'moron’…the extreme right has no solutions for the problems they have gotten us into so they call Obama a dictator and and think he’s trying to take over the world. Nonsense…
Yeah? Maybe we start with mexico because 85% OF THE ILLEGALS ARE FROM THERE AND FURTHER SOUTH! Duh.
My wife came with me from Korea after we were married and it wasn’t an easy process. The paperwork, waiting, and red tape we had to deal with, but now she is an American citizen. She has been one since 1990 and she loves this country. We have brought her family to this country through that same process and they are all citizens today, so why can’t those fools from south of the border do the same thing? My wife, family, and I don’t believe in illegals coming here and being given handouts at the expense of the average taxpayer. Our three sons and one daughter believe in the closing of our southern border to everything. My middle son just went to the army today and he hopes he goes to Texas or the Southwest so he can try to help with the problems there. Let’s secure our borders, liberties, culture, and way of life from those who only seek to take them from us. Fot God and country!
WTF You have to wait a LITTLE while to become a citizen of the greatest country on Earth. My husband and I were married 21 years before he became a citizen. It took 2 years and it pissed me off. I thought it should have been alot more grueling and it was not. You have to take a little test and then come back days later, stand in a line with others, hold an american flag and PRESTO you are a citizen. BFD it is open to anyone. Get out of the welfare line and just go down town. DUHHHHH.
Second point who the F cares if someone (like a cop) asks to see i.d. Hell that’s their Fing job. God people are stupid and blind as bats.
Jill, maybe in CA it takes a LITTLE while. I watched my sister in law struggle with this for several years in Indiana. I guess CA is just a rubber stamp state? By the way your cryptic expletives do not contribute to your message and in fact…detract from the validity of what you say.
Jill, is he a Mexican?
Yes, we must seal all our borders against terrorists and their weapons to the very best of our ability. However, our Canadian neighbors are not pouring across the border by the millions, creating “anchor babies” and wreaking havoc in northern border states. Have you ever heard of CRMP (the Mounties) pouring into New York or Maine, engaging in shootouts with border patrol? Kanuck drug cartels kidnapping citizens of North Dakota or Michigan? Be realistic–and honest–please. It is mainly Mexican illegals who are creating problems in our southern states. That’s not racism nor profiling, it’s fact.
Well Tony, when 99 percent of the illegals are coming in that way, I would say that is a pretty good place to start, wouldnt you? Or would that be profiling mexicans to you? I say profile the hell out of them, I mean, being that almost all of the illegals coming in down there, across the Mexican border, are mexicans. Are they not?
United States Goverment is NOt protecting this Conntry.
The Borders are so open thousands of Mexicans cross into this Country at will.
The Immigration office in San Franisco sends Busses full of Illeagal Mexicans three times a week. We need more fences and people guarding the Southern border.
I would like to challenge any person that is against the Arizona immigration bill to call your representatives in congress,also write a letter to Obama and tell them that the federal immigration law needs to be shredded and a new one needs to be written up.Because,in case you are like Obama,Hiolder and Napolitano who didn’t take time to read the bill but got on tv and condemned it,I have actually read the bill and it is EXACTLY like the federal bill.So if you are accusing Arizonians of being profilers then you are in fact accusing your liberal icons of profiling.
You hit the nail on the head
Hey Norman –
He also forgot to single out Aaahnold Schwarz(ham?)enegger, who has had (what?) two terms as Kali-fornia’s Governor, to whip these PREDATOR’s right back where they came from.
Anthony not all of us enter these blogs just to complain. Since you brought up California’s Governor let me show you his reply to my email of support for Arizona and blasting him for not doing the same for California.
“governor@governor.ca.gov” View Contact
To:mbeltram
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me about Arizona’s immigration law. I always appreciate hearing from fellow Californians about the issues that are important to them.
As an immigrant, I can identify with the desire to come to this country. The United States – a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws – is the most generous nation in the world, but our generosity cannot come at the expense of the American people or the security of our international borders. The federal government’s failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform is a reality we live with everyday in our schools, workplaces and hospitals. We need federal action that secures our border, protects taxpayers and creates a forward-looking policy to meet the labor needs of our economy.
It is encouraging that President Obama is committed to providing more resources to secure the border, and I look forward to seeing the final proposal. Previous federal programs to provide additional resources to the southwest border states have been successful, and I’ve been lobbying the federal government to restore the funding needed to provide more security along our border. We must find a permanent solution to our broken immigration system, and I will continue to call on the federal government to take action on comprehensive immigration reform. Our borders must be secured, and our businesses must have the employees they need but have been unable to find in our existing workforce.
Thank you again for adding your voice to this important issue. I appreciate your input and will keep your thoughts in mind.
This is the problem with Kalifornia. They elected Ahnold, because the people there are like this “OH, Ive heard of him”, so they vote for the guy. Its like living in a bowl of granola out there. What isnt fruits and nuts, is flakes. I was there for 4 years in the Military, and Ill never go back. What a drug infested, homeless, prostitute filled, con man full, wasteland. Every loser in the world hangs around out there. They can have it. Give me the midwest any day.
EQUAL RIGHTS REQUIRE EQUAL ENFORCEMENT!
Ironic, the first ‘black’, (half-black) president is establishing IN-EQUALITY as the rule of law.
As long as ANYONE is not held to the same laws as the rest of US Citizens we are NO LONGER EQUAL! Think of illegal aliens and crooked politicians who won’t do their jobs or pay their taxes)
The President is guilty of NONFEASANCE and MALFEASANCE of office for refusing to fulfill the obligations and requirements (to enforce the rule of law and the Constitution, to protect the states from invasion etc…)impeachment should be pursued.
I agree wholeheartedly. If we do not stand once more and defend the country we love and cherish, soon, I’m afraid it will no longer exist as I knew it and my relatives fought to defend it.
How are we to justify what is happening here while the youth of our country is bearing arms to defend us overseas? What are we to tell them when they return home after gallantly defending us only to find a shell of the country they love and cherish? What are we to tell our children and grandchildren happened? Are we so cowardly and
concerned with what is “politically correct” that we will not stand and defend our country against this minority of politicians that are ignoring the wishes of the majority that elected them.
Don’t Tread On Me
Jim Shelley
Wow Jim, your reply really touched me. Good job!
It is our civic DUTY to throw out these enablers this November or else we are also cupable.
Well said, Shelley. However, “minority of politicians that are ignoring the wishes of the majority that elected them” is an oxy-moron. Who elected the clowns in charge? Can we get a recount? Unfortunately, until the Legislature numbers change, no impeachment can be initiated.
After what just happened in the democratic primary in SC you might just want to devise plan B. Vote counts have altered for 50 years in states with mass block vote potential.
What a bunch of neo-con crap from you readers, and writers of this trash. First, Obama did not pass the law, so he has littrle do with in-equality. Second, this issue has been going on for ever. Look at past presidents, which recently were the republicans and Bush. If Bush’s home state is Texas, and they are on the border, Why didn’t he do something about it? Why has it all of a sudden become an issue? If the border towns like Phoenix are so bad, why are major crime stats showing a decline? Dont believe me-look it up!! Lastly, Spanish people are not looking for social welfare or handouts, but a better way of life. We Americans are so conceited when it comes to citizenship. If Spanish people were any other race besides african american, this wouldnt be an issue. When is the last time we heard anyone talk about Canadian Illegals, or illegals of any other descent?
So much for the melting pot!
Hey, you might want to read the article. It talks about past presidents and congresses ignoring the problem. Your straw man “neo-con” comments are really lame. It’s not “all of a sudden” we’ve been talking about this problem. It’s been a problem for years upon years. Reagan tried to fix it with amnesty on the predication that the border would be secured. That, of course, never happened. So, we have the current invasion going on precisly because our laws were never upheld. Guess, like most of the people currently occupying high office in our governement, you are not a real American and only care about yourself. Because if you were a real American and cared about others, you would see that our country being invaded by any large group of lawbreakers is harmful in so many ways to those people, our people, and our country. If we have laws but there are no punishments for breaking them, do you think people, who naturally sink to the lowest they can get away with, will follow said laws? Not likely. They’ll break them and laugh in our faces because they have no respect for us or our laws. And the people who help them break those laws are preying on these poor people who “so want a better life”. If you like lawlessness so much, I’m sure we can pool enough money to fly you to Cuba or Venezuela. You’ll be much more happy there I’m sure. Please stop your nonsensical tripe on the boards where reasonable people are having a grown-up discussion.
Nice rebuff.
Ditto
If immigration laws are being ignored, why have deportations been on the rise since 2002? If Obama has reversed the policies enacted under the Bush administration, why were why were there 100,000 more deportations in 2009 then in 2007 (Bush’s last full year.)? You are correct in your assertion that our border is not secure and we need to address this, but let’s not act as if we have just opened wide the doors and invited anyone and everyone to come join the party.
Now to the big question. If Arizona’s (or any other) law makers are so concerned about illegal immigration, why aren’t they cracking down on those who hire the immigrants? No doubt, the criminals engaged in drug running and hostage taking would still come across, but almost 60% of deportations are non-criminals (yes, I know that anyone who comes here illegally is a criminal, but that is not what this refers to.) Most of the immigrants are here to work, and we allow that. As this article mentions, we turn a blind eye to the employers who take advantage of these people in order to keep costs down and profits high. If we stopped letting them get away with this, how many people would cross the border? If there were no jobs available, why would they come in the numbers that they do? When we start recognizing that the americans who hire the immigrants are criminals and deal with them as such, then steaming the tide will become a much smaller job.
Americans who hire immigrants are not criminals. Employers who knowingly and intentionally hire illegal aliens are probably in violation of some law intended to shift responsibility for our border security from the politicians who have sworn oaths that include phrases such as “preserve, protect and defend”; “against all enemies, foreign and domestic”; “I will well faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter”.
These people who have mumbled these phrases before us are mostly in violation of their oaths of office. It is their refusal to live up to the oaths they have sworn that allows the illegal migration of aliens. Lacking these political failures, illegals in our midst would be a small problem.
People are WALKING over the border with their backpacks long before they stand on the street corner for a day job! Fences, we need SERIOUS fences (like the ones we build around our prisons) and the kind of armored vehicles that the Mexican Polizia showed us last week (when one of their smugglers was killed on U.S. soil)! Who knew they had these?!
The answer to your question Kinetic is that states are taking illegals more seriously now because of the numbers and the crime, and the drain on the social system. Bush did push foward on the fense and an electronic surveilance system but Obama has cut the budget. Obama has also been coming out against AZ for defense of their state. Obama is actually trying to stop peolpe who are trying to solve the problem which now makes Obama the problem..
rebelor,
“Americans who hire immigrants are not criminals. Employers who knowingly and intentionally hire illegal aliens are probably in violation of some law intended to shift responsibility for our border security…”
And there’s the problem. Until we face up to the fact that Americans are braking the law we will not stem the tide. Yes, BP they do walk across the border before getting the job (most of the time) but a fence is not enough. I’ve seen them climb the fences! Anyone that motivated to get here will find a way, so we need to make it less desirable to come here in the first place. If the goal is to earn a better living, we need to take that prospect away. The only way to do that is to stop the bosses that hire illegals. The laws against hiring are not there “to shift responsibility…” but to work with our border laws. If you want this country secure, do all you can to purchase products from companies that do not violate our immigration laws. When a gardner or painter shows up with a work force that can’t speak english, ask for proof that the workers are legal. If he can’t provide proof, fire and report him.
By the by, thank you for making this an intelligent conversation, free from insults, conspiracy theories and innuendo. I come to this site to understand often opposing views, but too often I find it a place for racist and sexist rants rather than well thought out opinions. I appreciate a good conversation and will consider your points.
Kinetic1 writes:
“If immigration laws are being ignored, why have deportations been on the rise since 2002? ”
That gives you an idea of why Arizona acted to enforce the law. The migration has become so large that even in a very lax enforcement decade the deportation numbers are on the rise.
Oh, I definitely agree that employers who hire the illegal aliens are part of the problem. Our government must start having the spine to enforce the laws on the books regarding giving them jobs. I’m not sure jail time is called for, but hefty fines should do the trick. If the jobs and social services for illegals dried up, we would have a much easier job of securing the border. We take away the incentives, they will not attempt to come in the first place. The ones here may even go home. And, if it’s so bad where they are from, maybe, just maybe, they will work to fix the problems with their own country.
Kinetic1,
If you have read the Arizona bill, you would realize that the majority of the text addresses exactly that. It cracks down on those employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. Obama also stated that he thinks there should be more focus on enforcing current laws on those companies who recruit illegal immigrants. He either has not read the bill, or he is once again relying on the media to overlook his gaffe and relying on the masses to neglect to do their own research.
Seriously great rebuff. Reagan did, in fact, TRY to do something. But Obama’s Party (pal), you know the one YOU’RE defending…. had the votes to override his efforts – way to exhibit “blind patriotism” for total corruption. You obviously only know how to repeat whatever you hear on the TV.
The bottom line – is more and more people simply need to read the books and go do their own Homework instead of being “puppets” of the New World Order. We still have a chance, even IF you hear those who hide, say otherwise. All you have to do is follow the oney, and you will find the Thieves and the Hidden Societies who think they have privilege even over the “blind” defender.
Remember this – If you are not (right now) worth at least $25-billion ?
Then, you… are everyone else!
About 95% of illegals come from Mexico, not Canada. There are not just a few thousand of them, they number in the millions. It is an all out invasion. Bush did increase border security and Obama has reversed his policies. Obama said he could handle the job of being President but he can’t. There is all out crisis and 70% of the Americans realize that. You are one of the 3 of 10 that do not, which makes you an Obama Zombie, illegal yourself, or just defending invasion of the U.S.
As a reference….87.5% of undocumented workers are Latinos. Not necessarily from Mexcio. There are approximately 3 mil. Europeans and Canadiens here working without proper papers. They comprise the second largest group. The remainder are Asian and a smidgeon from Africa.
So … under the laws of Arizona…it shouldn’t matter if you are Caucasian or Brown or Yellow or Black. Best be carrying your papers.
Don’t ya just love the freedom?
Most Mexicans are walking accross the border. The other groups you mention fly in and over stay their visa. Most probably they do not head to AZ so that should not be a problem usless the left creates a problem where there is none.
My driver’s license are my paper’s, how come illegals don’t need one? do they have special right’s HFlashman? and the citizens don’t? you call this fair? for whom?
Stop drinking the kool aid and wake up back to reality. Read the post I entered earlier and you’ll know what is going on.
Obama is on record having made statements in support of the status quo & going more radical in the wrong direction. He is the President today so arguing about the past is futile & fruitless. He OWNS the task of securing our borders & won’t unless his hand is forced by his handlers via polling data & focus groups. *** This is not about Mexicans other than Mexico contributes the greatest number of illegal aliens. There are plenty from elsewhere who are here illegally – remember 9/11? This PROVES the US MUST enforce the immigration laws already on the books, and augment them as needed to form a common sensical, necessary, reasonable shield around & within our great country!
I know I’m getting off the track but has anyone ever thought about “Barry” “Barak” “Hussein” “Obama” “Soetoro” and his 13 social security numbers, and what names he used to get them? He refuses to produce ANY valid identification of his even being in the country legally, let alone being president. Grade school, high school, college records are being hidden (if there are any), along with passports, real birth certificate,drivers license or anything ellse that would prove his citizenship? Do you know WHY he will not produce them and stop the talk about him not being a citizen? It’s because they DO NOT EXIST! His grandmother, his wife, the president of Kenya Africa, and the cheif clerk of the Hawiian election commission, all swear that Obama was born in Kenya. Did you also know that your “rlected’ officials, congressmen and senators, are in fear of reprisals from the Obama regime if they question the above facts? Communism,socialism,Marxism dictatorship? That’s what you voted for, and that’s what you got. Thanks Obama lovers.
Give statistics of illegal Canadians. Just too let you know most Americans are not against becoming a melting pot, but too do it legally. So why do they not make a better life for themselves in there country? Mexico has been around as long if not longer then we have. Buck up people of Mexico work and fight for your better life in your country.
You, Sir, Apparently are a gold plated demoleach nurturing off the Government in one way or another. You must have found your own personal place in that big White House “bed” with all the other corrupt politicians. No proper US citizen would have a problem with “LEGAL” immigrants! We never have! But when you see what these “poor,nice,Mexican people” (who are just looking for a better way of life) are doing to the citizen’s of this countries property and livestock, I start having a bit of a problem with that! Further more—I am a bit ticked off when I have spent 45 years contributing to social security and med tax and any other Government programs that my tax money has become a part of only to find out that some “poor,nice little Mexican illegal alien” is being allowed to participate in a program that he has never contributed a red cent for!! Come here legally through proper channels as did our ancestors and we will welcome you with open arms! If you, Sir, owned some border property and had to put up with the atrocities that are now going on for those who DO own…you just might have a different view on this matter! Your comments lead me to assume that you are about as un-American as the present POTUS! Are you Islamic?
Well said Dennis!
COULDN’T AGREE MORE!!!
Nice speech, Dennis. Seriously.
However – I need to point out to ALL of you, a few items of concern —
1. Social Security is a tactic of Communism (as is a Central Bank)
2. FDR started Social Security – with NO funding whatsoever.
3. Yet, senior citizens, American at that, were allowed to instantly draw from the program without having ever had to put money in.
Social Security has been run on unfunded mandates since it’s inception – it’s called BUYING VOTES UNDER DURESS.
Socxial Security is a great idea .. as long as it’s privatized.
AMEN!!!
GET IT RIGHT if you can……You cited “Spanish people” in your rant but should have said “Mexican people” if you were actually trying to make an intellectual point relevant to the article. Spanish people are not invading our country & haven’t done so in the past 125 years. *** If you’ve ever been in parts of Los Angeles you’ll see squalor & poverty which is heart-breaking, yes, even for a conservative or Libertarian if your mind can comprehend this. There are hundreds of thousands living in canyons partly because they’re here illegally & partly due to their inability to earn enough money to live in an apartment. *** Illegal immigration creates an underclass of people in our country which will is exactly opposite of what our country’s founders intended! There is not enough money available to throw at 20+ million people to get them out of the bad situations many are in, so we need to fence the border first, then determine how to address the 20+ million here illegally of all nationalities!
ndfenceofobama, all i can say is wow i am dumb founded at your wisdom, do you even know who is over illegal immigration, [obama] he is the one that tells j nepolitano the head of home land security,when to set and when to stand what to say, obama pick the laws he wants her to have enforced, nepolitano is the one that is over ice and the border patrol obama will not allow them to do their job obama is the one that want 1600 national guard to the southern border for show only,most of them will be pencil pusher, over half, the rest will have no ammo no help like a drop of water in a 5 gal.bucket, if obama is so great why would he need you to defend him you are a nothing a morron an elstupo a brain dead liberal that ether can not read or hear or most likly will not
Marvin,
Whether or not he can read, your run on sentence is almost incomprehensible. Do you talk the way you write? I no longer expect any attempt at the use of proper english, or even spell check on this site, but at least try to offer something that does not require several readings to understand.
When was the last time you saw a white person ,an asian or a black person cutting your lawn or doing gardening,or standing on a street corner waiting to be picked to work for cash wages that are tax free ,but require us to pay schools,medical,housing subsidies?
I have hundreds of thousands of times. It is common for us to mow our own grass and take care of our lots. Me included, as it is something that I like to do and would not hire you to do it for $.50. If I cannot do it, I will hire one of the legal neighbors kids to do it and will pay him a reasonable amount. [Offensive content removed]
The last time I saw a white person mowing my yard? Last Friday when I looked down at my sweat soaked body while I was pushing my mower. Incidently like another responder (Greg?) I enjoy doing it and if I could not do it I would find a legal resident boy or girl to mow for me.
Last Sat when I watched my obviously suntan challenged gardener and his grandson mowing the lawn and doing other gardening chores together. Now as to his race I was able to determine by observation that he was in fact of the human race as was his grandson.
Oh, Vicki, you are such a Patriot!?
Look out everyone! This person is probably a plant by the SEIU, ACORN (Whatever name they go by these days), or some other piece of crap. What we need to do is not just erect a fence, but also put soldiers and marines along our southern border. They want to make it look like a war zone, we can give them one and more.
samurai, good catch…best not to engage a response to this trolling hack.
acorn is now ahca, affordable housing corporation of America. Same group, same beverly, different name and location. I hope we all keep track of them!!!
Thanks for the info Ted. I’ll be watching from now on.
You must have a problem with education. Sounds like there is none with you. This problem has been going on for years and years. I’m 79 years old and have been aware of it for at least 60 of those years. I have read the entire Arizona law and it refers to to the Federal laws and calls for Arizona law enforcement to comply with Federal law. But then maybe Ferderal law is unconstitutional also dumbo?
1.) America is *NOT* a “Melting Pot”; I’m sure it’s Canada you’re thinking of.
2.) Not that it matters but they are not “Spanish people” (my god man, where do you live, under a rock?).
3.) They do not come here looking for a “Handout” but wind up feeding from the trough. A little basic research will tell you what the medical costs alone are for California and Arizona.
4.) How many BILLIONS of US dollars are sent by them to Mexico every year rather than invested back into the economy?
5.) the massive, uncontrolled and sustained wave of ILLEGAL immigration has changed the entire face of my state and to a slightly lesser degree, my country. This is no exaggeration.
I now live in a society here in California which has a parallel culture which REFUSES to assimilate because of some arrogance which makes them believe that the southwest is “their land” (even though their ancestors, the Aztecs stole all of THEIR land). They feel they have every right in the world to be here illegally. That doesn’t sound as if THEY are looking at it as a “Melting Pot” either, buddy!
The indigenous population of America has to compete with an illegal workforce which has taken over the better paying jobs (Truck driving, construction, catering trucks, city streets jobs, sanitation and you name-it) with their willingness to undercut or underbid the wages people that are here LEGALLY need for a decent lifestyle has meant that wages all around have declined and WE cannot get a decent paying job.
I saw the same as you when I used to live in California. The illegal enablers would vote themselves every benefit, every freebee, every entitlement at my expense, and I had no voice, no representation. My advise is to let them have California, and take your tax dollars, that support them, with you to a common sense state.
DEAREST COMMENTATOR,
RE: ‘MY REPLY’
WHY NOT BLOW UP MEXICO? AS THE MIDDLE EASTERN-ORIENTAL-THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES- WHAT IS THE DIF? PIONT BEING: AND THOSE THINGS ARE SMALLER.
I AM A VICTIM OF EXCATLY YOUR MESSAGE- AND THE GOV’T SUED THE CAHTOLIC CHURCH FOR 150 MILLION, AND AND I NEVER RECIEVED A PENNEY SEEKING LEGAL SERVICE SINCE 1991, AT EIGHTEEN YEARS OLD. IN OTHER WORDS, THIS COULD HINDER A CAREER. IS ANYONE IN THERE?
let’s see…
Some people are really missing the point. Things have changed now with Mexico. That is just the way it is. The country is falling into total corruption and they are bringing it into the United States.
The drug cartels are not coming from Canada. The terrorists are not coming through Canada. The Canadian boarder is pretty tight. It is not that easy to sneak through. There are very few people here illegally from Canada. Plus, Canada is not corrupt, so people don’t want to leave. They are not a problem.
And doesn’t the word illegal mean anything anymore? Since when does our president stick up for being illegal? I mean he isn’t just looking the other way. He is actually giving the cartels permission to come over here and kill Americans and sell drugs, by not standing behind Arizona. We are not just talking about honest illegal aliens coming here to look for work anymore.
Look, anyone that is against the new Arizona law, why don’t you take your family and move down to the boarder area in Arizona? Go live there. I dare you.
Millicent writes:
“Since when does our president stick up for being illegal?”
Peer pressure?
Appearently at least since college Vicki! Haven’t you read his books? If you do you can,clearly see where he stands on many issues, in his own words!!!
“ndefenceofobama” Interesting moniker; there is no defense for a man who runs to lead a country for the purpose of destroying it. As a Senator, he voted “present”; as President he is “absent”, legally, morally, and on every issue REAL AMERICAN cares about. By the way, “a better way of life” does not include murder and pillaging others’ property! And, also, the Spanish (from South America and Europe) hate Mexicans and you just insulted them, too!
“ndefenceofobama”: Interesting moniker; there is no defense for a man who runs to lead a country for the purpose of destroying it. As a Senator, he voted “present”; as President he is “absent”, legally, morally, and on every issue REAL AMERICANS care about. By the way, “a better way of life” does not include murder and pillaging others’ property! And, also, the Spanish (from South America and Europe) hate Mexicans and you just insulted them, too! (corrected)
ndfenceofobama I do live in Texas and I dont know why Bush didnt do anything about the border, thats why I was happy to see him go. And a news flash to you, this has NOT all of a sudden become an issue. And lastly “Spanish people are not looking for social welfare or handouts, but a better way of life.” You are so WRONG. Ndfenceofobama what state do you live in so we can send all the illegal deadbeats to your state.
Schools suffer, hospitals close because of the deadbeats. I dont have a problem who want to live in this country when they learn our laws, language and dont want to live off the American Tax Payers.
I have friends in China who would love to immigrate to the USA. One American friend spent 18 months and >$10K getting his Chinese fiancee into the USA. The Chinese want to know why they are expected to follow the immigration laws, but, the Mexicans (and other hispanics from the south) do not have to follow the law. The Chinese think that those of you supporting Obama are the ones being discriminatory!
ndfenceofobama…this person is another of the leftist trolls sent to this conservative website to disrupt it. Don’t waste the time to engage as it is looking to change the direction of the comments by those that choose to offer a response to his/her cooments.
One other thought. No matter what has happened before Obama is in charge now and has said repeatedly that he takes responsibility (of course that only lasts until he can blame someone else).
You are correct, ndefenceofobama.
The Teabaggers only seem to have a problem with our Southern border, EVEN THOUGH the 9-11 terrorists entered the US from Canada, as did the guy who wanted to blow up Los Angeles! The TERRORISTS come into the US from the North, not the South.
Alex;
You’re an idiot, and your posts are ignorant. Do some research before you post your uninformed blather.
Yes, Alex……..The Teabaggers make excuses and love pointing the finger…unfortunately their fingers right now are on blaming the Southern border and blaming Obama. Yes, you are also right about the 9-11 terrorists that entered thru to the US from Canada.
True–as I stated previously, ALL our borders need to be secured. Our most spectacular terrorist attack was perpetrated by Islamic Arab terrorists who apparently entered via Canada. Although I seem to recall that several of those suicide bombers were here on expired student visas–yes? Anyway, what of the daily acts of terrorism–murder and kidnapping–perpetrated by Mexican drug cartels?
Hey Alex! I wonder why there are Koran’s and Spanish for Dummies books found all along the southern border? Jihadistas, maybe?
To: ndfenceofobama,….Thank you for your opinion of Obama.
You asked where is the melting pot…that is exactly what the problem has become. Immigrants came to the states to change their lives for the better. They learn our language, they learn to work and live here according to our laws. The hispanics that are coming here illegally are not doing any of that! They come here and take our jobs, they do NOT want to learn our language, they are NOT following our laws, and they are trashing our country!!
Walk into the stores in towns where they live. There is product all over the floors, because they don’t care. There are so many empty packages where they have stolen the items left all over the store. Who do you think pays for that?? WE DO!! Our prices go sky high to cover the shop lifting losses! Our high school students and graduates cannot find jobs because the illegals have them! We now have to learn another language because THEY refuse to learn our language. You can bet if we went to their country they would insist that we have to learn their language!!
You may think that I don’t know what I am talking about, but I lived 2 miles from the Mexico border for more than 25 years!! They have no regard for our laws and rob people whom they call friend as well as strangers!! I know, because my “friend’s” kids robbed us three times!!! I have seen the transformation that has taken place in our stores, towns, public facilities, medical facilities, work places, rental homes, apartments, and schools! They are trashed by them!! Graffiti, broken structures (plaster walls crushed, windows broken out, etc.), trash, feces, drug parapenallia, just plain filth everywhere!! Don’t get me wrong, there are some of them that are not like that, but there are too many of them that are!!
I have the utmost respect for those that come here legally and go through the process as an immigrant. I have nothing but contempt for those that come here illegally and trash my country!!!
Illegals from other countries are about as bad, but they are not as prevelant as those from the south!
Phoenix is a border town? Just how wide is that border?
Perhaps if you read the new book describing Negrophelia written by an American that has more African blood than your hero you could fully understand what’s been happening here for 150 yrs. Racial bias was created then as it is today by those playing the race card whenever other political games failed and there was at least one willing victim to play out a reaction. There’s money in it.
ndfenceofobama,you’re a real winner! lol lol one reason past presidents didn’t do a whole lot was because it wasn’t a big problem then.bush did send 6000 troops to the border to help out the patrol.bush also started building the fence that obama stopped!74% of the americans are against giving illegals amnesty and citizenship but obama is going to try! the flow of illegals has actually increased because of what obama says he wants to do!yes violent crime is down in the USA but not Arz.between 2007-09 there were 2500 murders on the arz.-mex border.in 2009 there were 300 kidnappings in phoenix alone.in 2008 tucson had 150 home invasions.since 2005 there has been a 61% increase in home invasions in Arz.22%of illegals sentenced in maricopa co.in 2007 were convicted felons and 10.6% of those sentenced for murder were illegals.in 2009 there was 1.2 million lbs.of pot seized in Arz.ndfenceof obama tell us another obama lie!
Illegals = victims = Democrat voters.
Just because past presidents didn’t enforce the law, doesn’t mean Obama can ignore also. your’re a mental infant that makes childish remarks.
that remark was for ndfenceobama.
Not only should they be impeached, they should be put on trial for TREASON against the people of America as they have aided and abetted the invaders…the Bushes can go in with them also…they were just as bad. It is time for our government to be responsible for their actions. In November, when we get control again, I believe that the
Jobgate and the invasion of our country should be investigated and heads should roll.
I agree but under “Malfeasance” you should also add “produce a legal birth certificate” I can’t believe that I’m a citizen of a country who has a Constitutionally legal president.
Obama is all talk and not action. He went down to the Gulf today for some more photo ops and more talk. He is the most know-nothing president we have ever had. He and his handlers have no clue as to what to do except to blame and want to prosecute and drive under the company that has to pay the piper now.
Saw a clip on the news tonight. They showed some one from England (mayor of London I think) and he said Obama was full of hot air.
See penal code 8343B for the state of California
Progressives have a battle royal on their hands. Their hand-picked, incompetent ‘non-leader’ has set up America for a time when it would be hard to tell if America has been invaded by an army or let go to seed via traitors.
Thanks for NOTHING, you wretched TRAITORS! Many of these scum belong in mental asylums. Most belong behind bars for LIFE. The rest might as well pose before firing squads.
We deserve FREEDOM, and we’ll never get it from subhuman vermin who never had any use for freedom or a free country.
God, you Teabaggers sure seem in a Rush (pun intended) to put people before a firing squad!
Grow up, little whiny baby.
Your a foolish person, you are.
Alex = The typical progressive resorting to name calling while adding nothing of value to the discussion. Who needs to grow up.
Alex = The typical progressive resorting to name calling while adding nothing of value to the discussion. Who needs to grow up?
Alex, its about time to get off of the liberal crack before it totally fries your brain? Post some facts from some reliable sources and not things that you are paid to say from your boyfriend Obama bin Laden.
High Treason against the People of the United States of America is worthy of a firing squad or the gallows. Always has been.
So, JC, the textbooks (ESPECIALLY the ones from idiot Texass) need to show that Robert E. Lee and J.E.B. Stuart and Stonewall Jackson were traitors allowed to go on living, even though the KILLED THOUSANDS more Americans than Osama bin Laden.
Gawd Alex you’re so pathetic I’m starting to feel sorry for you…..
Dear Alex,
You need to bone up on your history. Gen. Lee, Gen. Jackson old Jeb only killed invaders. Sort of like shooting a burglar who breaks into your house. A legitimate exercise. Lee and Jeb made one foray into Union territory and it didn’t end well. Unfortunately, Jackson was no longer around. But that foray would not have been necessary were it not for the actions of that tyrannical despot Lincoln.
Best wishes,
Bob
P.S. I respectfully request that you refrain from your name-calling rants. Intelligent discussion is appreciated. Childish foolishness will get one banned.
You really are an idiot. Do you not ralize that the 13 cotton states had “legally” seceded and that it was an actual war between TWO governments? Before you go spewing off at the mouth again…read a book.
Did you know that Lee believed that slavery would fade away over time as our country was becomming more industrialized? Did you know that “Stonewall” Jackson started a sunday school for slaves and tought them how to read? Did you know that secession is legal? Did you know Union generals like McClellan and Sherman hated abolitionists and what they stood for? Did you know when Lincoln wanted to fight the war to free the slaves, 90% of all his troops under sergeant said that they would go home and not fight? Did you know that the Emancipation Proclimation didn’t free a single slave? Did you know that General Grant was responsible for the deaths of more Americans than Lee ever was? How is it that these generals decided to defend their country make them a bunch of traitors? You are a traitor to all common sense and reason! Go back to your friend Obama bin Laden and do some crack together, or probably each other, you moron!
Alax, from your post you must be good at tea bagging i am a tea party member never done any teabagging, tea bagging is for people like you gay, homosexual,just because you can not find an opposite sex partner so if you want to be post stuped go to move on .org
Prior to liberals using it as a derogatory reference to the tea party movement I did not even know the practice existed let alone a name for it. Thank you liberals so much for sharing more then we needed to know about your sex lives.
Arn’t you the one who wanted to put Bush on trial?
Alex is a now semi-regular liberal troll, just like American Liberal, timr, Tim, mick, etc., all of whom were sent here to talk stupid just for kicks.
I can see, as everyone else, that Alex is not here for discussion, but rather as an antagonist. I suggest he be ignored.
Yes, you’re right. Everyone Beware of “Alex”, “ndfenceofObama” (probably thinks that’s clever!) and “Another (Anarchist) American Citizen” all belong to Romper Room! Liberals remind me of childhood when “clubs” were so cool! “Okay, you be President, you can be Vice-President, you Secretary, and Treasurer!” -Blank looks on all faces- And then we would run back to our regular play. I am really looking forward to having grown-ups back in office come November!
So far I have not seen a reply from AL, do you suppose Alex is his new disguise?
Don’t forget Eyes Wide Shut….. where did that one go?
Alex, get you head out of the sand. Stop listening to the liberal lies. All of you progressive liberals have a rude awakening coming. You ignore the warnings and keep going full speed ahead with all the programs that have been proven not to work but drive the economy into the ground.
So if the illegals do not have to obey the law can I now go start robbing banks, or stopping people on the streets and robbing them?
The law is the law, so if I can’t do that why can people who are not citizens be allowed to break the law?
I’m not against allowing immigrants into this country as long as they do it legally. Come to visit and I say welcome, as long as it is only for say a month. But do not come here illegally and expect to be given a free rein to do what you want.
They wont do any thing to Obama,no one in Washington has any gut’s or ball’s.All of them are Traitor’s to the people who voted them scum suckers in office.Shooting them is too good for them,put them all in
prison and they might fine a boyfriend(BUBBY) that will take care of (ALL) there Need’s,if you get my drift?
Amnesty after Amnesty = Open Borders………..Enforce our Immigration Laws and complete the “approved” 2-Layer fence and make E-Verify mandatory.
My friends live 1200′ from the border, out of Sierra Vista, Az. they told me they find more prayer mats then anything. I find lot’s of back packs, with tortillo’s and water bottles in them.
Gone are the days that people do things….”because it is just the RIGHT thing to do”. Breaking the law is breaking the law. Going into someone elses house and taking their things is wrong. Disrespecting people is wrong. Yelling so loudly for your rights that you drowned out the rights of the American next to you is wrong.
Everyone is entitled basic human rights. So feed them, give them to drink, bathroom so they can wash and relieve and send them back. Those are basic human rights. Rights to citizens are reserved for citizens. Obama is not a citizen and deserves no rights,
~INHALE….EXHALE~ gone are the days that doing the right thing, is the right thing to do. When I was working at the hospital, and was called in to a trauma or code, I wonder how people would have felt if, I didn’t save a life that could have been saved, “because I had ulterior motives”. Not many have a conscience anymore. Doing right, for rights sake alone. I am so glad my parents raised me the way they did and I am even more glad that the Lord leads and guides me daily to do right, for righteousness sake alone! Thank you Lord!
AZ should immediately procede to bus the “borders” to Tiaquana and dump them there by the bus losd. If the Jackass dosn’t like it he can declair civil war on AZ, AND THEN SEE fast it will deteriorate into bloody civil warf, AZ will have the country demanding their consittution back to a local and state level.
Our communist president knows exactly what he is doing, and he is succeeding. I saw three busloads of illegals being transported into our country during a 2 hour interval just 2 weeks ago.
He wants communusm and by God he is going to accomplish it. I read the communist manifesto yesterday, and this is the guidebook he is using.
The communist insist that no classes should exist in a society. The state controls means. The workers are all treated the same. Private property is highly condemned, and working for an hourly wage is considered evil.
Our federal government is destroying capitlism on purpose. They are bringing in illegals to develop support.
Do you want to be a communist worker? I do not. I had much rather die fighting this evil tyranny in which we are becoming enslaved. It is happening in a rather quick and dishonest manner.
The body of your screed clearly shows you as incapable of having “read The Communist Manifesto yesterday” as you claim. Remember, silly Teabagger, Cliff Notes don’t count!
You really are a foolish person, YOU REALLY ARE!
Alex,
You certainly are an arrogant, foul mouthed little simpleton, aren’t you? And it is evident that you even take pride in that. You persistence in calling people ‘teabaggers’ who disagree with the communist wannabe who call themselves ‘progressives’ seems to indicate that you just have no tolerance for people running down or criticizing government. May I suggest that you move to Cuba, China or North Korea where no one badmouths the government. I am sure you would be very happy and perhaps they could use a little lamby pie sheep like yourself.
Taken into account that I have read the Communist Manifesto and Mien Kampf, this administration’s policies are right from the pages of these books. If you ever took the time to do a little light reading you’ll see that you are just full of BS! Get off of the koolaid!
“kool-aid”—straight out of the mind of Bill O’Really?
When will you people ever think for YOURSELVES?
You read “Mein Kampf?” Just forgot how to spell it, huh?
OK, I’ll take the hit for the spelling error. But you have to admit that what I said was true. I’m not blindly following the lead of any political party, just want this country to return to the ways of common sense and reason. You know, the ways of our christian founding fathers. Get off of the liberal crack, its frying your brain.
Alex,
You call “thinking for yourself” what you Liberals do? I call it Hoping and Dreaming. It’s easy to want the nice things in life, but earning them legitimately is not so easy. Liberals are quick to embrace the “sweet sounding lies”, as that is much easier than to face reality.
Alex – how much free ice cream do you get a month? You probably want more too huh?
Alex, My only child fights in defenseof this country. Her 2nd tour is allmost over, and by the grace of God she will come home. I hope you arent here when she gets here. Go back to whatever hanky stomper gave you life, attempt to find someone to justify your miserable existance,.I have looked on your behalf and come up empty!
Alex, My only child fights in defenseof this country. Her 2nd tour is almost over, and by the grace of God she will come home. I hope you arent here when she gets here. Go back to whatever hanky stomper gave you life, attempt to find someone to justify your miserable existance,.I have looked on your behalf and come up empty!
Just read Alinsky’s writind is enough to understand Obama…you should know Alex, you practice the same writings.
Alex,
It is only about 70 pages long. We realize that Liberals are reading-challenged but most people can easily read 70 pages in less than a day.
Alex dear. Demonstrate for us your knowledge. Share with us if you will what sprouted from the ruins of feudal society and what was it that was done that the writer disliked.
I would vote for a shoot to kill policy at OUR border. If our government would stop all the free handouts (NOT AVAILABLE TO AMERICANS) but we do get to pay for, the beaners would have no need to come here.
You are a pig and will burn in Teabagger Hell for your most insensitive and racist drivel.
Your Village called Alex, they’re missing there idiot!
Land Mines might be a little exteme. Why not Bear Traps? Or, what would be wrong with defending our sovereinty, allowing all land owners the right to shoot to kill?
School is out for they summer I guess, right Alex? Mommy sending you to little commie camp this summer?
Alex … IS the Mexican Government racist?
They will shoot you if you try to run a border crossing from north to south. If you dont think this is true go give it a try.
Get out there with your sign and defend them yourself. Hold still, smile…wait for the flash.
And Obama bin Laden isn’t a racist and liar?
Alex
Do you even know what the “tea bagger” name refers to ?
Or do you just like to use it because you think it sounds insulting?
The Boston tea party occurred when American colonists,in 1773, refusing to
pay a British sovereign’s tax on a shipment of tea,boarded the ship where it was
stored awaiting return to England and threw the tea into the ocean.
Kinda a “we’ve had it up to here and aren’t going to take it anymore” moment.
Many Americans have arrived at that same conclusion with our current
politicos and rightfully so.
If you think it’s insulting to be called a “tea bagger”
you are as misguided in that as in the rest of your rhetoric
posted here.
Such vile, hateful comments from the Liberal Alex. Do you think that wins you points, Alex? Please continue posting at this site so the fence-straddlers can see what Liberals are really all about. Liberals are hateful, controlling, ignorant thieves and the more your kind posts on this board, the more people can learn that fact.
You forgot SELFISH – I think selfish is the most apt description of a true liberal/progressive/socialist because they want you to work hard and pay for the ideas they have for the general good of our citizens. That way they can take credit for the idea, don’t have to actually contribute their time and energy, and the believe it buys them respect from others.
meteorlady; so true! I had a bad boss like that once.
Alex, are you an illegal? You surely sound like one and are in defense of them.
Mommy took all of Alex’s Barbies away so this is how he compensates.
I agree with you completely. I think that if Ar. would issue hunting lisences then a lot of retired people like me would be happy to come there for a hunting trip. I will promise not to shoot any southbound beaners.
Good, Bill. We already have a right to bear arms to defend ourselves against our own government. (Come to think of it, maybe B.H.O. wants this to happen, so he can impose martial law!?) They will only stop coming when we deport the 20+ million already here. Amnesty only encourages the rest of the family to be “sponsored”/walk on over!
You bring up a very valid point, with Martial Law, bp. In considering this same thing, I wondered if enough American troops would obey any such order! I then recalled that obama very quietly, about a year ago, enacted EO-13524! If I’m understanding this correctly, that is the last piece needed to give the president complete control over NATO forces ststioned in this country!
I now wonder if he might use these forces, should he decied to declare Martial Law. That puts a whole new spin on the issue!!
“We the People” need to start being seen in “GREATER” numbers and heard from in masses. We need to see and hear from candidates where they stand on major issues and hold them accountable. Why is it we are not asking our candidates or elected officials outright on their stance with major issues as immigration. Quit hiding…..NOW is our opportunity to be heard….NOW is our opportunity to be seen….November is coming soon….don’t pass it up.
Throw them all out (except a few like Ron Paul). Vote Libertarian, the Principled party. If you want Individual Liberty, Individual Responsibility, Limited Government, and Free Markets, there is only one choice:
http://libertarianparty.org/platform
I have a very good senator that I will vote back into office. He is one of the few that is openly pushing for the federal government to step up and do their jobs regarding securing our borders. I would hate to see that voice go away.
Did you also know that George Soros has a lot of Democrats and some Republican’s under his control now? It is probably time to take DaveH’s suggestion and start investigating the Libertarian party for new blood.
The hell with a fence,land mines are cheaper.
What a horrible statement to make! You are a heartless pig! Obviously you chickened out every time your country called you to battle or you would never want land mines anywhere. If you believe in any sort of God you had better pray for forgiveness!
Alex, We would have signs WARNING about the minefield. They would be written clearly in ENGLISH and posted on the NORTH end of every minefield.
hahahaha LMAO
I agree with the land mines but with ample signs and warning before the mines and not after. We are being invaded by an enemy who are proving they are willing to kill, kidnap, steal from, and rape Americans. If land mines can save just one American life it would be worth it. Isn’t that the excuse liberals use for fascism (if we can save just one life…).
Don’t forget the razor wire coiled all along the border wit the mines!
Right Alex?
It’s obvious to me that you haven’t got the BALLS to serve. What does a commie pinko faggot know about God? I suggest that you go back to church, enlist, and get a life.
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I apologize to everybody on here for Alex’s behavior. He is kind of a rare case. His mother was a “professional welfare cheat”, and a drug addict, and she crossbred with a donkey.
Alax, you set there and call straight people teabaggers, teabaggers are like you homosexual, then say we need ask god for forgiveness[i say you don,t know god],mabe land mines are just a little to much, but if you know that my yard had traps set you would not cross so go home to obamaland and do what ever you do
Alex, you’d better pray there’s a cure for Liberal Insanity___SOON!
Alex, yes, these are horrible statements that these so called human beings made about land minds……Racism can be a very dangerous thing. Sounds like some of these people want to start a war against Mexico….Are they not tired of so many years of war already….These people are scary because they have so much hate,….I wonder if they even believe in a God.
And this good people, is the donkey that fathered “Alex the libturd” (see above)
ROTFLMAO!
AAC, We could put signs up on the south side of a field warning of mines, written in Spanish, but actually plant NO mines. We could see how many minutes it took for them to call our bluff, or for an illiterate one to just go across anyway.
Are you legal or are you here on a green card?
Most here joke – but there is much frustration involved also. We all KNOW that we have a problem and we have LAWS to fix that problem and our government WILL NOT step in and enforce our laws. That’s about the size of it – if Obama continues to ignore our laws and continues to suck up the the Mexican President there will be border wars and more and more people are going to get killed at the frustration escalates into hate and people take the law into their own hands. Arizona passed a law because they are smart enough to know that they needed to do this to protect their citizens and their state from bankruptcy.
hello again meteorlady; “…the frustration escalates into hate and people take the law into their own hands.” It becomes more and more clear to me that this is the goal here. BHO would like to impose martial law and “transform” America into his dictatorship.
Those of us who agree with the “off with their heads” concept can only “talk” so much. Who do we go to to get the ball rolling for more than impeachment? It’s time for ACTION! Don’t you think?
YES!
I think all Americans with a terminal illness should move to the AZ., NM., CA.,(preferably a state with no death penality) border area’s and form gun clubs, join, practice and get good at “gun-control” (hitting what you shoot at).
Then, pick different days for different groups to go to the border and wait, see illegals, shoot to kill.
When the law comes, give up peacefully, go to court & plead no contest.
Get convicted, go to jail and let obama get his wish. FREE HEALTHCARE for ya’ll along with free food, clean bunk, T.V.& a rec. room.
Kinda like being in the rest home, just a little bit more secure.
I’ll probably get a visit for posting this.
I am not going to lie, I think LEGAL Immigration has gone beyond Insanity. Over 1.5 MILLION new citizens last year, alone. And MORE in 2007 AND 2008! We hand out so many VISAs that they have to make up #’s as they have ran out of Letters! We get 650,000 legal workers a year on work visas and 250,000 on student VISAs, 60% of which NEVER GO HOME!
And the feds TRY to convince us that there are ONLY 12.5 Million Illegals in the Country? BS! There were 12 Million estimated in March of 2004! You had better get ready for 25-30 MILLION getting Amnesty, PLUS their families! There goes the resources (landfills, gasoline, fresh water, food, social services, etc) and the neighborhoods. Oh yeah I mean exactly that! It has already happened, but imagine it 50X as bad!
This Country is GONE and we have the Liberals and Neo-Cons to thank for it!
Diversity, my BUTTOCKS!
Your name says it all: you are a robot, with no heart and no brain of its own.
Maybe you are thw “ass” OB is looking for !!!!
Have we forgotten to take our ritlin today?
Alex,
How many illegals are you sharing your home with?
Alex – how hard do you work and do you pay your fair share of taxes? If you don’t work and don’t pay taxes why do you think that any of us give a rat’s butt what you think or write?
Give me Liberty or Give me Death!!!! I am 60 years old. I tried to enlist in the Army in 1968. I was denied that opportunity, because I had a wife with a child on the way, and they could draft me and not have to pay dependent benefits. Their loss and my gain. I chose the Fatherhood Deferement. I had never owned a fire arm until that fatefull day in 2008 when the sheep voted for a pig (Animal Farm by George Orwell) and I felt it neccessary to prepare to defend my family from the totalitarians. My father served in World War II in the Battle of Luzon, and said to me that, I didn’t know what War is. I said to him, I will die a free man and not succumb to the impending slavery that this false Mesiah has planned. I now own three fire arms, 38 special, 9mm with 15 round clips, and a 12 gauge shotgun 7 and one shot capability. Not enough ammunition yet, but I and accumilating as my family and I practice. My wife is very proficientw with all three. As you may be aware Obama has stated the need for a National Police Agency. Any ideas on what that might be for. Could they be the Brown Shirts (ie Nazzis)? Just get prepared my friends for Marshall Law. They are laying the ground work for civil unrest now.
Did you know that Hillary is signing onto the UN Small Arms Treaty? Might be time to start accumulating unregistered guns.
Why are we suprised about this? It has become apparent that Congress and obama are not up to doing anything. These people are to them more handouts and more dependants on the system. They look at them as votes. Then it is very hard to throw rocks when you live in a glass house, obama knows the truth about his ability to hold office. Those in his clan also know the truth, but are willing to go along for the power and controll. We must take back our country in Novemebr.
The welfare system needs to ask proof of citizen ship. No legal status no free anything.
What happens when I loose my job? hhhmmm I will not be paying taxes, I will need to be on welfare. Will I get the same freebes the illegals – bet not. You want to feel sorry for some one, how about feeling sorry for those of us who pay and pay and pay. Yet when we hit hard times we get told we don’t qualify because —–. I am barely getting by yet my taxes are going up so the government can give to the illegals everything they want.
The illegals get free medical care but if I walk into the hospital I have to set up a payment plan; that is if they will even see me. I am tapped out. One more bill and I will loose my house.
Barbara,
I am 72 and live on $1099.00 a month. I am also one of those who paid into Social Security all my life until I retired. After watching a group of “hispanics” (status unknown) pay for several large shopping carts of food with their “welfare credit cards,” I went by the local assistance office and inquired about food assistance for myself. I wouldn’t have taken it because I always pay my own way, but after the incident in the grocery store, my curiosity was piqued. I was told after several hours of waiting that I did indeed qualify for food assistance and was eligible to receive $16.00 a month. When I was able to stop laughing I left. Every one of the puerile fool liberal/socialists who comments on this site in favor of babying these illegal aliens will find himself/herself in dire straights in the coming years. When they really need assistance of some kind and it isn’t available because of what they are now supporting, it will be sad but too late. The saddest thing of all is that they are causing harm to innocent Americans, not just their guilty selves.
Doug – did you every serve in the Military. If so you should try for your VA benefits.
Did you know the problem exists for legal immigrants also? In Seattle they have government subsidized housing and most are filled with immigrants both legal and illegal. They band together like the Somalians and stay in the same complex where they have their own bankers. They work for cash, collect welfare, food stamps, get free interpreters, free health care, free legal aid, and whatever else they can get all while working and making money. They are mostly Muslims and have far more children then they can afford so we taxpayers pick up the tab.
Seems that since Jimmy Carter welcomed all of them he also opened up our government entitlement programs, as well as Social Security and SS Disability. Since that time, around 45% of the immigrants that have entered this country, most sponsored by churches, have headed for the entitlement offices with their church “sponsors” and are receiving some type of assistance..
I have been telling my friends for the last 3 monthst that our so to speak elected representatives (Congressional and President) have take an oath to uphold the Consitiution of the Unites States and enforce the laws of this nation. When have they been given the right to select the laws they will enforce? I consider these actions as a need for the citizens of these United States take action to recall any and all of these law breaking respresetatives.
If you have not read the “Ombamation” by Jerome R. Chorsi, I suggest you do so immediately. I read it in May of 2008, and made predictions that are coming to fruition as we speak. These Comrades are doing everything in their power to destroy the Constitution and Our Free Enterprise Economic System, as did F.D.R.
I have always known that if the blacks ever came to power there would be no equality anymore. They will turn on us. It kind of reminds me of the movie, “Planet of the Apes”. They also have a very different way of looking at things and of course because most of them live in poverty and will for years to come, socialism is good for them. We do not need more Mexicans or anyothers coming here for that matter. WE need to really close our borders to all, until we can sort out our domestic problems. We also desperatly need a regime change.
Gary!!!! Color has nothing to do with this!!!! This has to do with agendas that have been on the launching pad for a very, very long time. Open your eyes and see who is backing Obama and I assure you they are quite diverse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Color? Maybe & maybe not, name one country governed by a black person that is doing good, no crime, no economic problems, freedom, food, work, etc., etc.,
There are none!
Black people seem to have a nack for governing as dictators and the conditions within their countries can deteriorate to anarchy and poverty they do not care, any that do, do so for their own benefit and any attempt to rectify those conditions are always met with spend, spend, spend & tax & tax & tax.
Which results in conditions worse than they were previously, but the dictator lives the good life and doesn’t give a chit, he got his or hers…… (beat me up over this if ya wants ta, i ain’t coming back to read any response to this post)
Sorry Alice but you are dead wrong.It was mostly people of color that got this guy elected, and of course bleeding heart liberals of all colors.
Alice,……I agree with your statement when you say: “its not about color”. I agree also that we are individuals by how we think and are educated…..not by the color of our skins. Good for you Alice !
Actually I think what you are saying has already happened in South Africa but this is not about race so do not make it about race. Fox News has been a blessing in showing many conservative blacks and conservative woman. Without Fox News you would not know they existed. If you look at Cuba it is the people in government that benefit most from raping the wealth of a country. Also, Obama is surrounded by whites and has backing from Obama Zombies like Alex.
What saddens me is the Black people who did the right things and are starting to enjoy their rewards just in time for Obama to shaft them for their efforts.
Gary, I have always thought the same thing that if a black person was ever elected President, we would be in for a heap of trouble because of the way far too many of them think. Remember all the hullabaloo about reparations in the not too distant past? Too many think this country owes them. I guess they don’t consider themselves ordinary American citizens as we do. This country, especially the Liberals, are in for a rude awakening. It’s too bad all will suffer no matter the political persuasion.
It’s statements like these–and the suggested land mines–that give conservatives a bad name. All it takes is one racist to undermine the entire TEA (stands for “Taxed Enough Already”) party movement. I do not oppose illegal Mexican immigrants on the basis of their skin color; I oppose citizens of other nations coming here illegally to take advantage of American largesse. Shoot, I oppose all these social programs on principle as unconstitutional, even for American citizens. Charity is wonderful, and something I regularly practice, but it should be VOLUNTARY, not enforced by our very own stormtrooper IRS.
Color and race have nothing to do with this. It’s about defending our country and enforcing our laws. It’s about freedom and not having to pay for everyone else that chose not to take advantage of their opportunities in life or don’t want to work. It’s about the pride you have when you are standing on your own two feet taking care of yourself and your family. It’s about voluntarily having the freedom to work and donate to charities of our choice.
No, it’s never about race or color – it’s about freedom and our AMERICAN way of life.
After reading all the comments, I wonder how we allowed this to happen. We elected the ones that are doing this to our country. We need to look past the elected officials to ourselves, we need to wake up and actually think. How many voters just vote straight party? Before we blame others we have to look at ourselves. One last thought, how many people did not even turn out to vote?
Change remember that is all Obama would say. NO one asked him to describe what and how he intended to change. The MSM fell all over themselves supporting change. Everyone wanted change Well we got change. We now get stabbed in the back with Obama’s change, more government control, high taxes, higher gas prices. Openly hostile to Israel, bows to Islam leader, feds controlling the banks and stock marked, private companies (auto). He controls the change in how we are insured.
We have changed from some semblance of a republic to a fascist government
All progress is change.
NOT all change is progress.
We got change alright.
Barbara, I love how you put this!! “Change” is all I heard here in the SE!! Everyone wanted change but no one asked the question!! What change? No one counted the cost. Blinded by trust on a very superficial level. And how I warned those who were going to the polls for the first time … “You’ll get chane alright..but it won’t be the kind of change you really want.” The level of financial support to Mr. Obama was on a world level. There is no possible way for a candidate to purchase three or four tv channels 24/7, entitling the program “Obama” without a very large scale support system!!! Who insisted Mr. Obama disclose his fiscal supporters? I never heard one word from the media!!!!
He promised change you can believe in. That wording is very careful. It causes you to believe that he is going to change things the way YOU wanted them. Thus he can promise change to all and all will think he is right with them.
He then goes on to do as he will and then points out that he did change things.
Some of us of course didn’t ask cause we KNEW what change he planned. We voted for the other guy (well gal
)
I think (hope) there are a lot of people that are researching and meeting the candidates now more than ever before. But sadly most just vote for a candidate like a box of yummy cereal. They don’t look at what the yummy cereal contains or how good it is for them, they look at the commercials on TV and the crap in the paper, check out the nice front of the box, and they vote.
Bravo!
The hypocrisy oozed out of him. Anyone who did a modicum of research on him could tell what he is. Conservative pundits had him pegged.
Oh, American Citizen (Naturalized?), how I wish that was true! Maybe we wouldn’t be in the current “hope” mess. No pundit defined the “change” and NO ONE asked the right questions. Only Palin had him pegged.
(How black people think? The current situation is VERY telling. The White House is focused with BP money “clean up”, no oil spill effort!)
ROBERT LEBISCHAK,
What is happening now is something Americans can never blame themselves for. We see things clearly now, and that’s what is important. If we were to remain silent now, it would be our responsibility. I have a saying…
NOT RACIST…NOT VIOLENT…JUST NO LONGER SILENT…
Please, everyone go to the polls, and avoid anger, because we are being prompted. Our votes will change things…and continue to speak your feelings.
Delores Smith
Delores109@cox.net
Yeah Robert, I worked the Primary this year (first time ever) and we had a turn out of only 12%. Since I worked the Roster I noticed that there was still a lot of people who were not on the vote by mail list
that didn’t show up. So how does one vote for the right people when the voters don’t bother to show up on election day. To me the Primary is very important in order to get the right person on the ballot for the November election.
I don’t care what party they belong to if their for illigal allliens being here we need to get them out of washington. We don’t need illigals here in our country and I am not going to be eating at a place where there looks like illigals are working or doing business with anyone who hires them. So the people who think they are saving money will end up loosing money instead.
Boycotts are a GREAT idea! Thanks, Wanda.
rev.jim you were correct.when asked what his girls got for xmas,we don’t exchange gifts or observe xmas. what does that tell ya? could he be jewish? i don’t think so
It surely says he’s not a Christian as he claimed to be.
From his book, in HIS OWN WORDS; “…Should a conflict arise, I will ALWAYS side with the Muslims” Reasonably clear answer, wouldn’t you say?
these elected one’s aren’t gonna do anything, they’re gonna continue to let them pour into this country to take advantage of every free program we have, bankrupting this country more, they laugh and sneer at us and won’t learn our language, they’re alliance is to Mexico and they scream racist if we voice our opinion, which is pointing out the obvious. this can’t go on much longer. we need to take of our public servants like they did in Romania in 1988, we’re not responsible for Mexico’s problems. Calderon, better “cowboy up”, enough said.
Conservative at birth you are correct and we should all be getting ready for war on our soil like nothing ever seen before. It will be bloody for sure. But it will be better to die in a fight to save our freedom than to lay down and let them run all over us. I fear that is what most Americans will do and not fight. It’s a bitch I cannot even guarantee my two sons the same America that I grew up in. It has almost disappeared and it is because we have been to friendly to all that want to come here.
Alex…obviously you’re hiding your real name. It’s probably Alejandro and you’re here illegally or you wouldn’t be calling everyone idiots and tea baggers. Are you laughing all the way to the freebies you can get while we barely make it on our Social Security that our so-called president deemed didn’t need to be increased while prices are going up all around us? Are you living a life of comfort while we had to give up our lovely home because taxes went up so high we could no longer afford it, and renting it out at a loss to a family from India who may or may not be here illegally? Are you delighted that you can get free medical while Medicare won’t pay for the one name brand drug I need, even though it’s the same price as the generic but more stable in the dosage needed? Laugh, “Alex” – then go back to where you came from and take a bunch of friends with you.
No, Grandma, he probably isn’t an illegal. He is just a Liberal. Name-calling and ridicule is all they know how to do, because they are capable of thinking only with their Lizard Brain. The Liberals’ ideas fall flat on their face when they are exposed to even a modicum of scrutiny. So they have no choice but to pursue the manipulative tactics of Eighth Graders.
Why do we have 37,000 troops on the border between North and South Korea, but we can’t put enough on our borders to protect us. Let’s all go to Arizona for vacations this year. I am. I’ve always wanted to see the Grand Canyon!! Help make up for the boycotts. See ya there!!!
Whatever happened to the Minuteman Militia?
I never hear about them anymore.
Big John, good idea!! With a little more effort we can also look for goods and services that we use that could be purchased from Arizona! In any case we should not buy anything from California!!!
California has nothing left to sell. It is bankrupt because of liberals and illegal resident aliens.
There’s no water for the San Joaquin Valley, once our country’s “bread basket”, due to “environmentalists”! (Read: government manipulation)
I’m heading there this week!
I’m going to Arizona in a couple of weeks and spending money golfing, visiting the Grand Canyon and staying in Cottonwood. Can’t wait!
I am a 70 year old man and I can recall when you had to meet certain criteria to be considered a man. The criteria was honesty, good judgment, good character, God fearing,courteous,observant ,kind ,loyal to a fault and without envy.
The elected officials in Washington D.C. do not posess these traits and therefore,cannotbe trusted. I personally think the Mafia has move to capitol hill.
The letter of the law must be followed if our republic is to stand. Let there be no doubt , there are those who would love to see America fall.
Yes Arizona and all who know, let us stand together and defeat this plague that has inaded out country.
I thank God every day of my life for my ability to see and do the right thing.
God Bless America.
EXCEPT FOR A FEW THAT NEED A RING IN THEIR NOSE SO THE LIBS CAN PULL THEM AROUND, WE KNOW WE HAVE NOTHING BUT SCUM IN CONTROL OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY. ALSO A BULLET IS CHEAPER THAN THE LAND MINE. IF WE WOULD GO INTO THEIR COUNTRY WE WOULD BE SHOT OR WORSE SO FAIR IS ONLY FAIR. AND WE WOULD NOT GET WELFARE, ALSO WE DON’T HAVE A PREIDENT, WE HAVE A DICK-TATER. WHATS THIS BULL SHIT NO AMERICAN FLAG ON THE STAGE BEHIND THE DICK-TATER.
Listen you MORONS if the comrade and his cronies’ can get you to focus on the “illegals” then they can proceed to continue with their dastardly plans for America…do you honestly believe that anything will change for the better once they get rid of all the illegals? Get REAL! The problem is in D.C. that’s where the change needs to begin…vote ALL the incumbents out and strip them of their entitlements!
What “obama is doing” is not the work of one person, this has been being put in place for years by many people, some now dead, and obama is only a puppet. When he has done what his handelers want he will be thrown under the bus.
I agree David! Much like what they did to John Kennedy when he DIDN’T do what they wanted!!
Victor, thank you, you are of the very few that really has his eyes open. You are right when you say that they want us to focus on other things than on the “Real Focus”……..and they have all these gullible and hateful people they have convinced. This gives them ample room to proceed with their dastardly plans for America. Nothing will change if we get rid of the illegals, ………Hopefully it is not to late to open everyone’s eyes and make them investigate where we should be putting our big efforts and angers!
Another,
Enlighten me. Where do you think we should be putting our efforts?
I think that illegals are a hugh problem right now. They are problem for the sovereignty of our country and they are bankrupting states. There are hugh source of crime, drugs and welfare fraud. They hold jobs that Americans need and the companies that hire them are scum. What will happen when our troops come home – will they find jobs? There are probably more like 25 million of them in this country and a whole lot of terrorists have probably entered our country illegally. So, yes I do think it’s important or they wouldn’t be ignoring it like they have been. If you have other, more pressing matters, let us know.
I agree with Big John. Let’s all plan to go hunting in Arizona this summer. I’ve been to the Grand Canyon, but it’s worth another look.
Its getting so dark in America that we need to turn on some lights. WHy have we been so naive and so kind? Look what it got us.
I find it amazing how 30 million black folks & 45 million hispanic folks(not all legal)can dictate to a country of 300 million what will be.
The only answer I can come up with is, there are too many people NOT VOTING and causing an imbalance in the majority rule concept at the ballot box!
I can sum it up for you.The civil rights act and the civil liberties union. Never should have happened. Not ever.
I thought this was a conservative site and we still had the 1st amendment. Surprise Surprise, we lost that too.
You can say what you want Gary but people have the right to disagree we you. You also have the right to shoot yourself in the foot but most conservatives would not agree that is a good idea. What you do not realize is that when free speech aids and abeits the ennemy you will find opposition to your opinion.
What do you think is happening at this point in time??
I agree with you on the ACLU, but disagree with you on the civil rights act. All citizens should have the same rights, emphasis on citizens. The ACLU has its good and bad, mostly bad points.
American Citizen (& Patriot!)
The problem with “civil rights” (an oxy-moron?) is where do yours end and mine begin? The courts are full of personal litigation because of this. There are no “rights” without responsibilities. Therefore, the act should be limited to public, or governmental, not private sector “civil rights”. Our country was founded on the principle of personal accountability to God, which has kept our Republic for all these years.
BP
The problem with “civil rights” is that we have them in the first place. We stepped over a line in a lot of cases when these laws were passed. I agree that people have rights, but we are generally protected by the Constitution.
Gary. Like most people you mistake a restriction on government for a power. The First amendment does not read “Personalliberty.com must allow anyone voice their opinion.”
This is a website belonging to Personal Liberty News who very graciously allows us to voice our opinions as long as we are civil.
The First Amendment rather clearly says CONGRESS shall make no law…. and as such obviously is a restriction on the FEDERAL government.
There of course have been quite a few court cases to affect the amendment but none have extended the limitation past government and into private presses.
One things for sure Obama will giving another nice sounding speech.
That’s all he really knows how to do. All throught the USA, in every city where I know people, the illigal aliens are wreaking havoc. Drunk driving, drug peddeling, living off our socialism. Basically corrupting our societies. Not all of them are bad people, but enough are.
V IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE ILLEGALS IS A PROBLEM I WOULD WATCH WHO I CALL A MORON
Oath? What oath? Just because I held up my hand and repeated some nonsence words that someone else said doesn’t mean I took an oath! Besides what does an Oath mean? Nothing! It is simply meaningless words. Support the Constitution? Of course I do! And I support it be wanting to take everyone’s guns (except mine of course) away from them so they can’t attack the Constitution! Oh, there is something there that says I can’t? Don’t be silly! I know what is there! I saw it once on a school trip when I was 10 or so.
Signed, Your Congressman
It’s been going on for a while .45
The problem is “systemic” and both sides encroach on our rights.
We need a return to a Constutional Republic.
Bush – Constitution
‘Just A Goddamned
Piece Of Paper’
By Doug Thompson
Capitol Hill Blue
12-9-5
Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.
Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.
GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”
And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that “goddamned piece of paper” used to guarantee.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the “Constitution is an outdated document.”
Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn’t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn’t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine in the end if something is legal or right.
Every federal official including the President who takes an oath of office swears to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a “living document.”
“”Oh, how I hate the phrase we have-a ‘living document,’” Scalia says. “We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete’s sake.”
As a judge, Scalia says, “I don’t have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it’s better than anything else.”
President Bush has proposed seven amendments to the Constitution over the last five years, including a controversial amendment to define marriage as a “union between a man and woman.” Members of Congress have proposed some 11,000 amendments over the last decade, ranging from repeal of the right to bear arms to a Constitutional ban on abortion.
Scalia says the danger of tinkering with the Constitution comes from a loss of rights.
“We can take away rights just as we can grant new ones,” Scalia warns. “Don’t think that it’s a one-way street.”
And don’t buy the White House hype that the USA Patriot Act is a necessary tool to fight terrorism. It is a dangerous law that infringes on the rights of every American citizen and, as one brave aide told President Bush, something that undermines the Constitution of the United States.
But why should Bush care? After all, the Constitution is just “a goddamned piece of paper.”
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As Thomas Jefferson said “Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories”.
JC, Just a hint, BUSH IS NOT IN OFFICE!!! In any case, obama added to the patriot act, making it even more aggregious!!!
Poor George – the recipient of so much hatred because of the news media. They took great pride in crucifying him as they do others that don’t conform to their owner’s political views. I’m not a hugh Bush fan – but he’s gone! He was not the worst of our Presidents – not even close, so why not put forth some valid argument, comments or points for rational discussions?
WHat is really lacking in America is the color you print your response on.
Victor is correct. Obama and his motley crew want us to fixate on illegals. One thing I’d like to point out that Hispanic is the wrong term for people of Spanish descent. They are European, and thus caucasian. Mexican can be either Spanish or mixed with other races, but they are not considered black. Their language is also Spanish, but with the same type of difference as German to Germany, and German to Austria. That said, we have been a melting pot for years and years and all people were welcome until they started coming illegally. Now they are being encouraged by Obama and Calderone to destroy the United States to become “One World Order” headed by a king. Guess who wants to be king of the world? Never happen. He has too big of an ego and no brain and he can’t see that he’s a puppet for other nefarious characters. We have to change our government and do it quickly in November or we’re in deep doo-doo! Build the fence! Enforce the law — state by state if we have to. Then let us talk about legal immigration and what to do with the criminals who came here illegally — and they are all criminals because they broke the law.
Victor I think is missing the point. Illegal immigration is a huge problem and is a rallying cry that pulls everyone together to do just what you and Victor want to do. The same can be said about the deficit.
The only pertinent word about all of this is “illegal”. They are criminals as soon as they step foot on our territory. Nationality means nothing here.
How the “Illegal Immigration” issue affects our everyday lives!
I am a proud American Citizen, who has honorably and unselfishly served his country as a Marine for twenty years, like many before me.
Although I am a registered democrat, I have to admit that in the past sixteen months this President, his Administration and allies, with the help of the Main Stream Media, have been systematically eroding our Constitutional rights, which seems to be just fine with the President as evidenced by his numerous deplorable actions that will permanently divide our country to a point of no return.
I also believe that if they are allowed to continue without restraint their actions will more than likely cause civil unrest and/or an uprising, which may be his ultimate goal because it would allow him to declare “Marshal Law” as a means of completely doing away with our “Constitutional Rights” and ultimately take over as our country’s life-long dictator.
Note: These recent articles and/or blog posts support my statement above-You Decide:
Is Obama fomenting a race war? “Fanning the flames of racial tension in Arizona is deliberate”-Posted on The Washington Times-By Jeffrey T. Kuhner-On April 30, 2010:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/30/is-obama-fomenting-a-race-war/
From One Hispanic to Others — Arizona, You’re Being Had By the Media-Posted on BigJounralism.com-By Alicia Colon-On April 29, 2010:
http://bigjournalism.com/aliciacolon/2010/04/29/from-one-hispanic-to-others-re-arizona-youre-being-had-by-the-media/
I also believe that, as an American Citizen, who also happens to be Hispanic, I have a God given right and/or duty to stand up for and defend those rights given me under our Constitution and have chosen to do this under my “Freedom of Speech Rights” by laying out my numerous concerns as professionally as I can on my blog web site, which I will continue to share with you in the hopes of getting the word out on issues that I feel the Main Stream Media continues to deliberately and blatantly keep us in dark about.
I realize how extremely sensitive the “illegal immigration” issue is in our country simply because it deals with and affects human lives that I know for a fact have been forever oppressed by their country. And, although I know in my heart and soul that we must show some compassion for these individuals, which I do, as I do for many others around the world that live in oppressive regimes, I also find myself to be extremely concerned and disgusted about how our government leaders in Washington have unjustly and unfairly dealt with the issue of “illegal immigration” in our country. I also believe that not every “illegal immigrant,” regardless of what oppressed country they come from, has been treated equally, and, most importantly, their inaction to deal with this sensitive issue has not only hurt and/or destroyed human lives in the past and continues to this date, but has created what I consider to be a grave “security” issue for our country.
My main concern on this issue is one of “homeland and national security,” which has been exacerbated by our country’s 9/11 terrorist attack and truly believe that our government leaders have not done enough to secure our boarders, although our country’s tax payers continue to flip the bill for failed security measures, as evidenced by the recent failed Times Square terrorist plot and Christmas day attempted terrorist airplane attack in Detroit.
And with that being said, what follows is my recent blog post that reveals a letter that I forwarded to one of our City Councilors in 2006 regarding the issues that some of my co-workers and I experienced with un-documented workers (illegal immigrants), along with those employers that hired them, while employed with a State Government Agency and am taking the liberty of sharing it with you as a means of giving you an insight into some of the issues that most of our U.S. Citizens shy away from sharing with anyone, to include their employers, for fear of being labeled as a “racist,” which I find extremely disturbing because we should not have to live and/or work in this environment as American Citizens, who supposedly live in the “land of the free.”
What I find even more deplorable is that some of our City, State and National elected officials seem to deliberately ignore the illegal immigrant issue for fear of being labeled as “racists” and/or are more concerned about their political careers than taking care of their employees and/or constituents, with the exception of the Governor of Arizona that has recently signed the “Illegal Immigration Law” in her state and I truly admire her for listening to over 70% of her constituents and having the fortitude to deal with the issue, which is more than I can say for some of our elected officials in my state and in Washington-You Decide:
http://weroinnm.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/how-the-“illegal-immigration”-issue-affects-our-everyday-lives/
Disclaimer: I am not a politician and thus am not known for always being politically correct because I call it as I see it. I lost my father, a WWII Veteran, who survived the Battle of the Bulge, but lost the battle with his PTSD symptoms at the young age of fifty-nine and I also lost many a friend during the Viet Nam War that fought and died to uphold our “Constitutional Rights” and the freedom that too many “Americans in Name Only” take for granted. I have to admit that I tend to get extremely concerned when I see politicians, regardless of political affiliation, sex, race, color (In the Marine Corps we were all green), creed, ethnic origin or religion, doing things and/or taking actions that I see as a threat to the freedom and/or rights given us under our Constitution and/or the safety, security or welfare of our Veterans, active duty members or their dependents/survivors.
“Food For Thought”
“God Bless & Keep Our USA Safe”
Semper Fi!
I think that if Obama really wanted to do something he would put pressure on Mexico the clean up it’s act and start helping their people. I believe that Obama does not want to do that because it would get millions of people our from under and oppressive government and he doesn’t need that to happen right now.
I’m sorry for these people, I really am. But they know exactly what they are doing and how to do it when they cross our borders illegally. My community has people that take food and clothing over the border but they are required to pay taxes on what the bring into the country. So they just pack suitcases and bag and take them to the villages and leave them. Lately though they aren’t going anymore because of the violence and one church person will killed there.
Maybe if some illegal’s were voted into the House and Senate(already one in the White house), our lawmaker’s would see “THEIR” jobs threatened by illegals and do something about it.
Its obvious this person in the White House has no intention of enforcing our laws and protecting our sovereignty. These hipsters from the south side know no integrity. This is just another “3 card Monte” gig with the government for sale to the highest bidder.
Illegal immigration supplies his voting base and the key to perpetual power, with the press bought off so they can sell out their own country. Norway had its Quisling; we have GE.
Did something fall on your head? Illegal immigrants to expand his voting base? You obviously have no idea about the laws of this country. You are very silly.
Chuck is silly? Hmm let’s see he understands what it is he’s trying to say. And he has a valid point in that Illegals will vote for the goodies that the communists in the White House will give them.
Where as you mention the laws of this country but make no referebce as to which ones or how they apply and then you impune someone’s character.
Yep! You’re a Moron.
couldn’t have said it better.
alex would also like us to forget about the “voter” registration pratices of acorn(now ahca),moveon.org,organizing for America, seiu,etc. It’s clear that many illegals do vote!!!
Just shut the !@#$%^& heck up and stay off of the site, you moron!
Samurai, I am so disappointed! This is exactly the reaction “they” are looking for! Please do not facilitate the “civil unrest” agenda!
OK, OK, I’ll behave myself!
We do have freedom of speech and he is amusing somewhat. I vote he stays….. maybe he can get a semblance of an education.
And you, Alex, are just an ignorant Liberal. Baby-steps is what the Pregressive movement is all about. It takes time to put together their ultimate goals of a brainwashed and captured electorate.
There is nothing compassionate about Liberals. They want to force their way on others, and take other peoples’ money. And if they meet any resistance, name-calling and ridicule are their main tools. They can’t use logic, because logic eludes them.
I know, Alex, I misspelled “Progressive”. Bad me.
alex, don’t you listen to what those illegals are saying? They claim this is their country and their goal is to take it over.
As for that matter, it is also the aim of the Muslims to take over the whole world, so in the future, there may be a war between the M & M’s for control here.
Alex – do a little research – ACORN: see how many times they have been accused of voter registration fraud.
Failure of our political whores to uphold our Constitution points up the urgent need for us to clean house in November. I believe one-term politicians is the answer. I don’t believe our Constitutional framers envisioned professional politicians. How soon they lose sight of the fact that they work for us, not we for them.
The framers were well aware of “professional” politicians. They had to put up with a king after all. They created a Constitutional Republic with selection of representitives based on democratic principles. They expected us and WARNED us that we had to be sure and vote. We are the ones who must enforce term limits by voting out the politician when they go professional.
The one thing our forefathers probably didn’t expect was the merging of all the little newspapers into just a few big presses. As such propaganda would be so much easier to accomplish.
Fortunately for us progress that brought us mergers also brought us a new paradigm where EVERYONE has a printing press. And in cases like this blog more then just one printing press. Presses with circulation that would make some big media giants envious.
This is why government fears Al Gore’s invention
This is why the governments around the world try to suppress it.
This is why our government is trying to control it.
I also do not believe that they could ever have concieved that the 17th. amendment would come to pass!!
Mr. Alford,
Unfortunately integrity has been replaced with narcissism in this country now. The seven deadly sins are infesting this once great country and we are doomed. There are people in high places that have been choreographing this whole thing and we, the naive, have been complacent to the point of our own extinction. There is nothing we can do about it now except vote, but that isn’t going to help either because that whole process is rigged too. We allowed this to happen to ourselves by being so morally bankrupt, not electing true conservatives to represent us and most importantly, TURNING OUR BACK ON GOD. When we did that, our fate was sealed. So, America, in the next couple of years, just remember that it was our own apathy that caused this downfall, get on your knees and beg God to forgive us, bacause this country is history as we know it.
To bad for our kids.
Here, here! We all need to return to our roots–pray that God will restore this nation to us, and promise to take better care of it than before. “In God We Trust”; all others back away!
Sorry to tell you this but my research says that Obamacare will put hiring of illegals just to attractive for companies to resist.
Millions of Americans will loose their jobs. And your pay will be reduced because you will be paying for illegals health care in the mandated state programs.
Despite all that has happened in the USA in the last 50 years, there are still some differences between Democrat and Republican.
Time was when the Democrat Party was the party of the working class and the Midwestern and Southern social conservatives. Today, the Democrat Party is the party of heirs and heiresses educated in today’s leftist universities, lawyers, leftists, liberals, and “new money” people who made their fortunes in entertainment and morally questionable activities.
The basic beliefs of the Democrat fat cats and rank and file registered Democrat voters are, today, much the same. They love European traditions, the United Nations and believe in abortion on demand, all sexual acts between consenting adults, guaranteed income and health care for all, strict environmental protection laws, strict separation of church and state, and strong centralized government.
The Republican fat cats and rank and file registered Republican voters, by contrast, have little in common. The fat cats who are not old money are business owners or have worked mostly in the business world. They want an unlimited supply of cheap labor so they won’t ever again have to spend money modernizing their businesses. The rank and file registered Republicans, by contrast, are cultural and social conservatives of modest means economically. They believe in the family as the basic social unit, Judaeo-Christian principles upon which the USA was founded, and right and wrong. They want political leaders who will not compromise on principles, not just more money in their wallets. They still revere Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan. Many Southerners who were once Democrats are now Republicans.
Good observation D Davis.
Our country was NOT founded on Judeo-Christian principles but rather the beliefs of the enlightenment and of John Locke in particular. The principles outlined by the Ten Commandments are common to almost all social entities. Many of the founders of this country, including Thomas Jefferson who regarded the Bible as dangerous, did not regard themselves as Christian but rather as Deists.
Dear Jim R,
Sorry, you could not be more wrong about this.
http://www.personalliberty.com/ageless-wisdom-of-the-founders/the-hand-of-god/
Best wishes,
Bob
Christian, not Christian- Judeo?
JimR, The Founders WERE Christians, your a Revisionist in training.
TRUST, BUT VERIFY!!!
Well, there’s good news and then there’s good news. The United States of America is a CHRISTIAN nation (like no other) and if you do not like it, more good news is that your American passport is honored in most countries in the world! ‘Bye!
(I love this link!)(http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=X2G3wGVAnIQ)
Bummer the link appear to be broken
Try this, “Taking Back our Country” from the heartland of Colorado:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=x2G3wGVAnIQ
link still shows as “not available”
Vicki: It’s available. One more time, hope you like it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=x2G3wGVAnlQ
Yay. Got it. Thanks
Look out everyone! Jim R is another plant by the libs on this site. How do I know? Jefferson, baaaaa! Diest, baaaaa! Bible and church are dangerous, baaaaa! Enlightenment, baaaaa! John Locke, baaaaa!
Chaaaaaaange! These are some of only a very few strategies they use, so please be careful!
With the braying of NDFENCE. I note another foaming at the mouth liberal democrat who has not awakened and still thinks everything is OK. WAKE UP NDFENCE!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, right J.M.R. and you’re the big [offensive word removed] who knows it all…thanks for proving my point!
Is “one man one vote” still in effect?
Corporations and unions “don’t have a votes” are for sale. What do corporations and unions want in return for their donations to the parties?
We the people “all have a vote” are for sale. What do “We the people” get in return for our vote? Fifty percent pay no income tax, fifty percent get some sort of largess from the government. (Welfare, food stamps, subsidies housing, farm subsides, and many more.)
The first amendment gives us the right to voice our opinion but it does not give us the right to demand that the government be our sugar daddy. If we are a compassionate nation, then why do we demand that the government take over the responsibility that should be that of the “We the people”
Why do we have a constitution? Is it something to hang on the wall like a picture? Or is it a blueprint for neighbors to be neighborly and to keep the government from interfering.
Our founding fathers established three equal branches of government and that each branch was to ride heard on the other two. Who is going to stop the fiasco that has penetrated the legislation and administration. The only one that can stop this fiasco is the judicial to declare that government welfare and subsidies are unconstitution. We can’t depend on “we the people” to do the job.
these forgien people have figured this admin. out Look at Iran more sanctions and what happens N Korea sinks a ship and then what happens Iran is crossing The iraq border with more terroist. Then the pres of mexico comes over and bad mouths arizonas law They are all working together to dismantle this great country. And our commie president stands by and pats him on the back. Obama and his cronnies have already started recurting for the 012 elections look out he will buy all the votes he needs. This high yeller should never have come to office in the first plce. We sure dont need him back.
Well of course. This evil Obama knows exactly what he is doing.He is bringing America down with financing I suspect from all kinds of America hating groups.I think the remainder of his term will finish us off.
v can’t you focus on more than one thing at a time i can
Another great article Bob Livingston. Keep up the good work. I believe illegal immigration, the huge deficit, and big government growth is the under belly of the fascist politician. If there were not these overwhelming problems to rally around no one would be getting voted out in November. It would be business as usual. I think there are some bloggers here who are well read but do not know there has to be issues to rally around.
The most honorable thing Hussein Obama can do is RESIGN.
tell me ! I said ! (one) thing he has done for the american people, except do his best to bankrupt our country. I believe his ultimate goal is to destroy the United States from within. Barack Hussien Obama
your time is coming, you just can’t keep demoralizing and ruining the US and forcing them into revolt.
Apparantly Ndefence of Obama and Alex are two of the same! These two are Just what America needs to push this country to exinction!.
If you are not part of the Solution! You ARE part of the Problem!
Besides the biggest concern we have now is the influx of potential Terrorist insurgents over the Mexican border! this is alarming!
The President of Mexico was here in our Country recently and was interviewed on TV. He was asked how illegals in his Country are dealt with and found. We should enforce our Laws the same as they do.
Why is it that we are evil if we do as they do?
To John Wesley, answer: it is the liberal/Democrat/progressive double standard.
BTW, my grandparents never voted Democrat until they were dead.
Stop feeding,health care,houseing illegals,our government is not doing there job,cut there pay,no retirement. Get them out. This illegal thing can,and must be stoped.
do you have a list of reps & congressman that have voted against immigration reform..
I suppose I will have to repeat myself. We have one out of every seven Mexicans in Mexico in our country right now. If these thirteen million are legalized the fence will be no longer needed, especially since our pro. mex. gov. wants to bring in their extended families as well. Everyone is still saying we can’t afford to deport them. I beg to differ, in the seventies we deported ten mil. Mexicans. If it could be done then, it could very well be done now. Sure it will cost us. But the cost of keeping them here far out-weighs (on a constant bases) the cost of them staying. We what need to do is to corner both parties to pick the people they will represent, Americans or Mexicans. It really has come to that. Tell them in no-uncertain terms “if I see your adds in Spanish I will not vote for you.” Make them fear the American vote, not the Hispanic vote. Obviously they need reminding this is still America.
Her is my take on the deportation issue M.L. We will pay a PRICE to deport these people, I’m sure it will be high. It will be made even higher by the progressives demands that they be given many “rights”, that I believe should be for citizens only! That being said, the term PRICE implys a one time expense. To keep them here will be,trully, a COST. A COST implys an ongoing expense!! Tremendous difference here!!!
M.L. Please fill me in and excuse my ignorance. WHY is it too costly to deport trespassers? Can’t they just walk back, the way they came here?
Sorry about the blunders, but I think you catch my drift.
Impeachment is in order for our President and his men. I am tired of trying to understand what exactly he stand for. He appears to be on the side of the terrorists and illegals because he refuses to do anything about it. He has shown for sure that he has no Backbone what so ever.
I’d like to see action and less lip service.
As far as the oil spill he can’t plug it and BP is trying to plug it so stop bellyaching about it and help with the clean up instead of looking at it and waiting forBP to do it. If the government don’t like what you are doing to retain your beaches I say that is to bad. GO FOR IT. I’ll be first in line to support your decisions.
Suddenly I feel like I am standing on the deck of the Titanic, singing Nearer my God to Thee. Hang on we only have 15000 feet to go.
My thanks goes out to all you liberals that seem to think the sinking of America is good. FOOLS we are all going down together.
Gary, A good post, but again these fools are not liberals, they are Marxist, there really is quite a differance.
And as these Marxist fools have yet to grasp that thier heads will roll long before anyone else, as you can never trust a trader.
Then the Unions will all be taken out, again never trust a trader.
Then all the homeless, then all the welfair rolls will be removed as they have zreo value anylonger.
The first to go will be the media as you can’t have any criticism. The lamestream media had better shape up.
Impeach Obama, he has broken his oath.
FF
To Freedom Fighter: We need the Speaker of the House’s support for impeachment. Do you think Nancy Pelosi (the jack-in-the-box applaud machine) is up to it?
Over the years I have been listening to late night radio talk shows with very intelligent speakers on, who are in the know about the government. Obama is simply a figure head puppet doing what the Bilderberg Group and under-government wants him to do. Did you know that it’s the Bilderberg Group who hand picks leaders of the countries. Each year before an election, these “players” are invited to the Bilderberg gathering…Reagan, Clinton, Tony Blair, Steven Harper, and a lot of previous others….and just imagine it, they become “leader” the following year. Something is smelling rotten in the current state of affairs. Their agenda is a “One World Government” with them at the helm. Just look up the Bilderberg group… it’s scary. This could be why they don’t really care how many are coming over the border as they had planned to unite Mexico, U.S. and Canada as one, the North American Union. Another scary thing about the Bilderberg group is that it was started by an EX S.S. Nazi who helped to spirit a lot of Nazis out of Germany to South America. Read up about what could be on the table for us all.There are many influential people in this group..Rockefeller, Kissinger, monarchy from Sweden, Holland, England and more. Read up on it. Daniel Estulin has written a book about the group who wishes to control our very existence. Arm yourself with knowledge, as knowledge is POWER!!! BEWARE of the shadow government.
THEY WOULDNT COME IF PEOPLE WOULNT HIRE THEM AND THE FEDS GIVING THEM FOOD STAMPS,FINE THE PEOPLE 10,000 DOLLARS FOR EVERY ILLEGAL WORKING FOR THEM WHO GIVE THEM JOBS,THATS THE BEST WAY TO STOP THEM FROM COMMING, BUT BIG BUSSINESS RUNS THE GOVERMENT SO THAT WONT HAPPEN,WE ARE BASICLY SOS,ELECT JAN BREWER FOR PRESIDENT ONLY ONE WITH GUTS.
The aliens were apprehended “at the borders of the United States, in the interior of the country and at designated sites outside of the United States.” The 2008 yearbook lists 791,568 deportable aliens by country (Page 97). Some include:
Afghanistan: 29
Algeria: 41
Cuba: 3,896
Iran: 98
Iraq: 118
Lebanon: 188
Libya: 11
Nigeria: 299
Pakistan: 494
Saudi Arabia: 71
Somalia: 66
Sudan: 46
Syria: 71
Yemen: 78
I was surprised to see that many Cubans listed.
How many from Mexico?
American Citizen: The other 786,062, if my arithmetic is correct.
I guess you finally admit that all illegals are NOT “Mexicans”. Finally someone with brains speaks with facts and statistics instead of with hate against all “Mexicans”. We have killed many Mexicans, and that is outrageous to any Country,this is not the answer, that is the Animalistic way…….Get rid of your Hate ! Lets not lose Focus, lets concentrate on solving the “Many Problems” in our own Country, and its not by killing and causing other Wars with additional Countries…..No Bad Economy needs an additional War!
Did The Obama White House Commit Multiple Impeachable Offenses?
As unanswered questions over the alleged bribe of Congressman Joe Sestak continue to mount, new allegations of bribery are starting to see the light of day. Recently, Andrew Romanoff claimed that he was offered multiple jobs to drop his U.S. Senate challenge to Senator Michael Bennet and confirmed his claim by releasing an e-mail from White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina that described three jobs that could potentially be his if he dropped out of the race.
Representative Darrell Issa, Representative Lamar Smith and Representative James Sensenbrenner have already stated that these allegations and the White House’s own explanation of these allegations appear “to catalog a violation of the federal criminal code, the tampering of evidence, witness tampering and evasion of the legal process.”
Allegations of this magnitude scream for an independent investigation. Federal law is clear. It is a felony to offer anything of value to an official of the government in exchange for a favorable action by that official. It’s bribery. Moreover, if these allegations are true, someone (or a number of individuals… perhaps even Barack Obama) in the Obama White House may have committed an impeachable offense. Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution reads; “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
Your duty is clear. These possible impeachable offenses must be fully investigated and the American people deserve to know the truth… the whole truth… and nothing but the truth. And yes… if Barack Obama had knowledge of these offers or was a party to any evasions, cover-ups, tampering or other obstructions of justice, then Articles of Impeachment must be drawn up immediately!
ImpeachObamaCampaign.com
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Impeachment is only half the battle! Maby not even that much! We might recall that clinton was impeached, that didn’t do much good did it?? If,as in clintons case, the Senate refuses to remove him from office, it’s just a slap on the hands!!
FYI: the IMPEACH.COM petition is closed with over 5,000 “signatures”.
That’s the ImpeachObamaCampaign.com above. FYI.
One of the things that outrages me most is not only is this criminal Obama regime letting these illegals cross our borders at will but once here they have no interest in becoming Americans. Just look at them, they protest anything that’s good for this country and not to their liking. A disproportionate number are not interested in learning our language. They do not want to meld into the U.S. way of living, they just want to continue to embrace their third world regressive culture. And on top of it all, they want us to dole out to them all the perks from our already sky high taxes they don’t deserve. Try and imagine your ancestors who came from all parts of Europe to pursue the American dream protesting against this country and raising their flags above Old Glory. My ancestors were from Ireland but I would never stand for an illegal influx of Irish immigrants to this country. Since this regime is going to do nothing to protect our country we are getting precariously close to finding another way to save the U.S. from traitors within.
Funny in California we have numerous homeless people pan handling or better put beggin for money on street corners, intersections and yes at times just come up to your car while you parking.It is always whites who do this.Never seen a black, Asian or Mexican begging for money. Perhaps these whites should get a job.
Perhaps the illegal Mexicans have panhandler’s jobs or Illegal Mexicans do not have to panhandle. The State of California gives them your tax dollars to exist. The panhandler, white, does not get those benefits.
That’s because the Mexicans have the white guys job – and they get entitlements and don’t need to beg – they just steal someone’s identity and their into the government welfare trough.
Those are nothing but excuses to take the blame away.
Excuse me? The blame away from whom? for what?
Where I live they are in construction – those jobs used to pay $25/30 per hour and the citizens that had them paid taxes. Now they pay $8/10 per hour and the illegals that have them get welfare besides not paying taxes.
I saw a Tv show on that. Many whites who are alcoholics do not want any part of the social system if they have to fill out forms or do anything to get the money. They prefer to beg rather then be in the system in any way. Minorities on the other hand have training centers in their neighborhoods to learn how to work the system which they somehow feel they are deserving of.
You are right…..I always see whites as the beggars on the corners, or sleeping under bridges and on park benches, and these are people who look young and healthy……..while the others are busy trying to find work or working up a sweat in whatever job comes along. It is always whites that do this, hardly ever see blacks, Asian or Latins begging for money.
You’re right. Only the white people have to panhandle on the streets. Those other races you mentioned get their welfare checks, and food stamps delivered in their mailboxes.
To Alex’s Social worker, sounds like affirmative action for the government benefits WE pay for. Isn’t it great? (sarcasm)
With the last amnesty, many of those illegals got into politics, trying to make way for another amnesty. We must get these moles out of office. There is voter fraud. Watch the voter polls, and those that are participating at the voter polls. I received information that, there are rushes at the last moment of the day, when the polls close, for ‘stuffing’ the ballot box. The pollsters look on the voter roster lists, see who has not voted…and do their voting for them. Become a POLL WATCHER…see if the voting is legitimate.
We are having our country stolen by thieves, heathens, barbarians.
This is an old war between us, and Esau, Ismael, and the serpent’s seed.
The 1986 amnesty resulted in an 84% fraud rate because we did not have enough people to verify paperwork that was presented. We allowed and estimated 1.3 million into the country and they in turn petitioned to bring in another 1 million or so of their family. They were mostly illiterates that the government said would go to school, make something better of their lives, and pay taxes. Ten years later they were costing the American taxpayer around $10 to $15 million per year (1986 dollars) in entitlements and continued to routinely have more children than they could afford to support. Most still did not speak English and their children were never taught the importance of a good education so they were a net loss to the educational systems. Around 53% of them settled in California – I will leave it at that.
“Alien Rule” gnerates agitation.
He who angers you, controls you.
#1.) I grew up believeing ANYONE that COULD be in PUBLIC Office, EACH ONE had TO BE A LEGAL United States Citizen. THEY spoke ENGLISH, THEY SUPPORTED the U.S.A. Constitution. That was the country I grew up in. Slowly I have seen comunisium/dictatorship creep in. First real awakining was when several of us Mothers tried to reason on Sexation when we realized the books used in OUR schools were Publishers who of a comunist backgrown and not in favor of the Parents belief as to THEIR OWN CHILD and TO THAT of the PARENT! From there it has spred like a weed through out our country. IT IS TIME, past TIME we stand up for OUR HOMELAND!! Ill-leagals, NO MORE HAND OUTS, we are broke! GO home! The illegal Sneakes are runining the true citizenship of THIER brothers who have WORKED and PROVED there worth to be here. Just like leadership now has distroyed OUR belief in BELIEVING, HE LIES!! If it is TRUE then SHOW US YOUR PAPERS! Hiding, we thought it was a lie – TREASON!
#2. SECURE BORDER CONTROL, Visits -Where with Who, What is the #of your (flight) departure and WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE to seeing you out of here? TIME IS UP! LEAVE. WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO PUT UP WITH ALL THIS NONSENSE!! OH, you are to hard! WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT LEGAL! Then Leave!
Dear Bob, thank you for publishing the oaths that our president and our congressmen take. We all know that they have failed miserably
to protect and defend the constitution, they have also failed to protect us from foreign invasion. But most of all they have failed to protect us from an over reaching government. To the president and congress stop the nonsence and start upholding the constitution and for what it stands. Never in my lifetime have I seen so much corruption
in our government. This is the result of letting anyone run for government just because they are old enough, I would like see you get a job in the private sector with only that qualification. No more hiring our president or congressmen with no experience, wake up America
we are being sold down the river. Long live America and the American way. God please forgive us of our many sins and please heal our land.
Meh pensacola,fl.
Look at the Crime rate in your area and see WHO WAS REPONSIBLE??? A REAL eye opener! The drunk who JUST CRASHED into and kill ONE of our loved onrs! WHO WAS THE JUDGE?? REMEMBER; WE GET TO VOTE his soory posteror out to the unemployed line come Nov. WHO is on for giving PAROLS to criminals?? They need to go on the unemployment line too. VOTE, yes be a VOICE AND VOTE!
Muslim Obama intentions of “change” for our country is to progressive marxism – socialist government control as fast as he can before he is voted out of office. Unfortunately there are many left Dem’s who want the same government control, example Maxine Walters, Barbra Boxer, Polosi, Reid, Unions, etc. who support government controlling our lives. Muslim Obama’s only concern for illegals is how many votes he can capture for 2012. Muslim Obama, his administration along with his thirty plus czars must go if the United States is to continue as a free country for its legal citizens and stop pandering to anti-Americans, illegals and groups who want to destroy our freedom. It is the time for all great Americans to stand up against this government tyranny.
I live in Nevada; Reid is the biggest liar of any politician I have ever heard of. I will give you just one example to show how he does not care for this state. Nevada has two major east west interstate hiways the 15 in Las Vegas and the 80 that runs through Reno. The only north south road not hiway that connects the two interstates is 95; it is hundreds and hundreds of miles of very dangerous two lane hiway that trucks travel by the thousands. This shows you how much this long long term senator cares about his state…NOT!!! This only
one example of how when he gets elected and goes back to Washington how he conveniently forgets us. Oh he shows one project on tv about a solar plant wow what an accomplishment for so many years.
B-Says you are right on identifing H. Reid as such an disingenuous representative in Washington for Nevada. Hopefully you can get enough great Americans in Nevada to vote Reid out this November. Reid is not only bad for Nevada his socialist policies are destroying American freedom. Good luck for November !!!!!
B, ole dirty Harry is stale toast come November…
Don’t forget that the NRA has endorsed him:
http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m6d13-Why-does-the-NRA-support-Harry-Reid
DaveH, the NRA has never “endorsed” Harry Reid. What they did was thank him for the new Nevada shooting park that he lobbied for and encouraged Nevada NRA members to thank him, but they have never “endorsed” Harry Reid. There is a huge difference between thanking an “enemy” for supporting a shooting range and endorsing them. I’ve watched this situation very close and I’d be the first to pull my membership and yell if that were otherwise. The GOA and NRA give Reid the same grade for gun control issues, a “B”
Might take a look at this: Snowflakes in Hell
Firearms Policy and Politics in Pennsylvania
http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/31/a-comparison-2/