They Stole That Election Fair And Square
July 17, 2009 by Chip Wood
One of the dirtiest campaigns ever conducted for the U.S. Senate is finally over. And to the dismay of anyone who cares about decency and decorum in “the world’s most exclusive club,” the chief mud-thrower has been declared the victor.
Shame on the 1.4 million celebrity-stricken Minnesotans who voted for a mean-spirited, hate-filled, dishonest demagogue named Al Franken. Shame on the courts and an incredibly biased Secretary of State who tortured and twisted a so-called “recount” until they made sure Franken had enough votes to win. And shame on the Republicans in Minnesota for allowing the election to be stolen from them.
When this campaign began, Norm Coleman, the Republican incumbent, was expected to win handily. No one gave Al Franken much of a chance. After all, this is the former Saturday Night Live performer whose major contributions to our culture have been sketches like “Planet of the Enormous Hooters” and books such as Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Liar. (Same to you, buddy.)
But that was before the economy imploded and the Obama bandwagon began to soar. Franken was incredibly well-funded by the left, so he was able to afford a ton of TV and print commercials. The result was some of the most blatantly dishonest advertisements his advisers could devise. Franken flat-out lied about Coleman’s voting record. He even accused his opponent of being “the fourth most corrupt senator in Congress.”
The leftwing activist group ACORN was busy, registering every warm body they could find. They were aided by Minnesota’s absurd same-day registration law. In Minnesota, election officials trust but don’t verify. How many illegal immigrants, felons, non-residents and other ineligibles did ACORN manage to get to the polls? We’ll never know. But you can bet it was a whole lot more than Al Franken’s razor-thin margin of victory.
When the original vote tally was announced it appeared that Coleman had won by 725 votes. The results were so close that a recount was inevitable. And that’s when the Franken forces really went to work to rig the results.
They brought in the same team that had found enough votes in the 2004 race for governor in Washington State to hand the election to Christine Gregorie. They were aided in Minnesota by Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, a Democrat Party official and ACORN activist who got away with approving recount totals that favored Franken—but accepted the original tally in other cases, all of which just happened also to favor Franken.
By the time the recount ended Franken had gained 436 votes from “corrections” in just three heavily Democrat precincts. That, combined with votes that were removed from the Coleman side in other precincts, was enough to tip the election in Franken’s favor. Coleman appealed the results to the Minnesota Supreme Court, which ruled on June 30 that Franken had won the election by 312 votes. A few days later the gloating and gleeful ex-comedian took his seat as the 60th Democrat in the U.S. Senate. That brings the party of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama to a filibuster-proof majority. Not a pretty thought, is it?
But before you tear out your hair and fall to the floor sobbing, “That’s it. It’s all over. Nothing can save our poor Republic now,” hold on a moment. I do see a few rays of sunshine in this otherwise bleak assessment.
First, I don’t believe that Al Franken will be an asset for the Democrats. Instead, I think he will turn out to be a huge liability. The man has absolutely no class. He’s a mean-spirited guttersnipe who will find it impossible to keep his big mouth shut, or to resist the temptation to spout extremist views that are way to the left of most Americans.
As Connie Hair observed in Human Events, “Unless the powers that be in the Senate can put a big, fat muzzle on his mouth, Al Franken’s brand of politics and caustic deportment would make him the poster child for everything that’s wrong in America in 2010. The Senate’s own Rosie O’Donnell.”
Right. And what are the chances that this egotistical grandstander will allow himself to be muzzled? Or even agree that, for the good of his party, he should sit down and shut up for a while? I put them pretty close to zero.
Barack Obama may be the smoothest fraud we’ve seen in many a year. But take it from me; Al Franken is the complete opposite. The junior senator from Minnesota may just prove to be the most attractive target conservatives have had in years. Sort of a real-life tar baby, where every accusation sticks.
So please, Al, get on that soap box every chance you get. I can’t wait to see how far down your throat you can shove your foot. In fact, I’ll even help push.
They Haven’t Stolen This One… Yet
While the bad guys were celebrating their victory in Minnesota, several thousand miles to the south the good guys (and gals) won at least a temporary victory in Honduras.
Unfortunately, rather than cheer the sensible (and completely legal) actions of responsible Hondurans, our President has chosen to side with Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez and demand that the so-called “coup” be reversed.
In case you didn’t follow the story, here’s a quick recap. The Honduran constitution forbids a president succeed himself. The then-president, Manuel Zelaya, inspired by Venezuela’s Marxist boss, Hugo Chavez, decided to change the rules. He asked the Honduran Congress to amend the constitution to permit him to run again. The Congress, which was fed up with all of his unconstitutional shenanigans, said “absolutely not.”
So Zelaya vowed to go “to the people.” He said he would hold an illegal referendum. When the courts wouldn’t sanction his scheme, his buddy Chavez had a bunch of ballots printed in Venezuela and smuggled into Honduras.
When the military got wind of this, they seized the ballots. That’s when Zelaya said he would lead a mob to the military base where they were stored and have them distributed.
With that, responsible Hondurans said “enough.” Well, actually, they said “basta” and a lot of more colorful words. The Honduran Supreme Court ordered the military to arrest Zelaya. The Honduran Congress voted to support the action. So two weeks ago, Honduran soldiers marched into the presidential palace, seized Zelaya, and put him on a plane to Costa Rica.
This very reasonable and even humane action (most would-be dictators kill their opponents) sent the left into absolute conniption fits. The United Nations voted unanimously to condemn the action. Here’s an important principle, folks. When a majority of the members of the United Nations favors something, you can bet your bottom dollar that it’s bad for freedom.
As I write these words, Hondurans are refusing to buckle under to all the international pressure—even that coming from Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Roberto Micheletti, the speaker of the Honduran congress, was named as caretaker president to serve out Zelaya’s term. Micheletti declared, “We have established a democratic government, and we will not cede to pressure from anyone. We are a sovereign country.”
When Zelaya tried to return to the country, Micheletti ordered the airport closed. Zelaya’s plane was not allowed to land. Time will tell if Micheletti and his brave and determined allies in Honduras will succeed.
A handful of Americans have come to their defense. Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC), a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, issued a statement saying, “The rule of law is working in Honduras. President Obama should not undermine the democratic institutions that guarantee freedom by forcing an illegitimate president back into power…. The United States should support the Honduran people and their legitimate leaders in their brave and heroic stand for freedom and the rule of law.” To which I offer a hearty “amen.”
If you haven’t already done so (and if by the time you read this Hondurans are still clinging to their freedom), please ask your senators and representatives to support them. It’s time we helped the good guys win one.
Until next time, keep some powder dry.
Did Minnesota adopt Chicago’s ‘instant vote’ methods? [counters who can't read or count, dead voters, last-minute votes from people who live in other states]. In a way, it would be poetic justice if Big Al is another Biden or Gore. Biden and Gore have mastered jamming both feet in their mouths (around the world). Big Al should have studied The Three Stooges. They were funny. They had real jobs.
They were intelligent. They weren’t jerks. This farce could result in a movie (it could happen). Call it Anybody Can Get Elected If They Move to Minnesota or I Am Paid to Stay Away from Minnesota or
What Did George Washington Have That I Don’t?
Forever Stewart Smoley. What a terd russler.
That is Stuart Smalley. And, yes, he is a morally bankrupt being. He will fit in nicely with the other usurpers in Washington.
s.c .
You sound like the 4′th stooge.
The “4th stooge” is the big mouth clown that, together with Osama bin Biden’s buddy ACORN” stole the election
YOUR FRUSTRATION IS SOOOOOOOOO FUNNY
Obama’s policies may be debated, but he won the election 365 to 173 electoral votes. This is far better than Bush ever did. You right wingers just don’t get it. Your as dangerous as any of the left extremests.
norm your a troll arobot when are you gonna wake up bud?
Like I have said before You didnt just drink the kool-aid you must have been baptised in it . I guess this is only right when most people who voted for this farce of a president think he is the lord all mighty.. GET A GRIP GOD NO ANTI-CHRIST YES!!!!!!!!!!
Hey , Norm If I promised you the moon as you laid in bed all day eating government suppied cheeto’s .While the rest of us got up and went to work so you could keep your ass in bed .I could most likly get every dead beat that hadn’t voted in thier life drawing welfare to show up and vote for dead JACKASS like the one you have now . You Socalist kill me just keep it up ,tell me something Norm why should I get up everyday and go to my job so you lazy jerks can seat at home on your butt drawing a check because you say its so hard out in the real world..I can’t or I want should be the Dem’s motto.. Why should people work so you dont have to , and believe me that who voted for this person to be your president.. the dead beats of this world the nonproductives ,the paper pirates,…Promise me the moon Norm and I’ll vote for even you…
Give our President a couple more years to spend you into debt you can’t count Norm, and your tune will likely change. Obama (and the county) would benefit from a couple of basic economics classes. I doubt that you spend more than you make on a regular basis. The Country shouldn’t either. Thanks to a couple of college kids ACORN got exposed for the farce that it is. If ACORN was the difference in putting Al Franken in office then our country has hit a new low.
If you would bother to under stand the electoral votes, they are not consistently applied in each stated. That isn’t the victory it appears to be. Further, ACORN committed so much voter fraud that these votes will never be challenged because Obama is in their pocket and vice versa. This is payback time for all of Obama’s cronies and followers…they get a free pass for now. But look out in 2010…..the sleeping giant is finally awakening and Americans who have been a sleep are realizing they were just taken by the biggest scam in history. You anti-Americans living here and enjoying the freedom of being an American, while selling out America will soon find out the hard way and that will be a good thing!
Norm – Obama’s win is the triumph of selfishness over thrift. More people voted (for Obama) that want their free lunch than those that know that there is no such thing
obama won because no one with half a brain in this country wanted four more years of republican rule. after all you peope put in office w bush an unemployed drunk till age fourty, a coward who hid under his daddy’s coat tails to aoid serving his country in viet nam, a “born again” right wing christian (hypocrite) who stole more from america than we’ll ever know. not to mention the lies to americans that led to the iraq war, our dead soldiers along with thousands of women and children for nothing more than his ego. and the fact that w let 911 happen so he could scare america into giving him everything he wanted. given my choices socialism sounds better than a retarded dictator like w bush. neither will happen though, we as amerians will never permit it. if obama screws up we have our votes. i saygive him a try, he canot screw up any more than w bush did
Art, your High School is embarrassed!
Wow Norm. Too bad you can’t spell.
The fact of the matter is that you’re the dangerous one. People like you fall for every hook, line and sinker some slick-talking schmoozer puts out, votes for him and then declares him some kind of god. These are the same idiots who think Obama is an honest and truthful person and voted for Al Franken.
Personally, I find it hilarious that a has-been comedian like Al was voted in as a demorat – you deserve him.
Now take your liberal butt out there and make more money for your illegal friends who depend on your tax dollars to live!
FYI: The Bamster really didn’t win that last election! I’ve been doing some personal research, and it can be said that ACORN STOLE it for him instead with too many illegal and fraudulent votes to count!
Newsflash — Sarah Palin actually pulled out that victory in 2008! She went against the wind, against the tide, and against the current, and even with the MSM wholly in the pocket of the Bamster, she crossed that finish line with 3% MORE popular votes and 60 MORE electoral votes than the Bamster did! AND she did this pulling McCain’s ancient ass with her!!
Go ahead and vet this information for yourselves and tell me what you think! I double dog dare you!!
Julie
P.S. He’s also NOT the real President because he doesn’t have a birth certificate with a raised seal from Hawaii AND he doesn’t currently have citizenship either!
You sound like one of those white boy racists who whould not believe OUR president was born in the united states even when there is a copy of it on the web. You rities are all so stupid with your insane theories. We won, we’re in, so
GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This reply is for Becky. Enjoy these 4 years, because there won’t be another 4 after all the lies he has told.
Becky,you ignorant (word removed), (as Dan Akryoid) might say) the role of an election is not to win, but to elect people who will serve the country before serving their own narrow interests.
Thing is about Al Franken, is that if one rubs Preparation H all over him, he disappears.
I know you want to get rid of his so badly and if this is true why don’t you just get out your H and do it to him and make your dreams come true. Mark how do you come up with these stupid stupid statements and WHY!!
How do you liberals come up with such stupid, corrupt,and un-american polititions?
s c on July 17th, 2009 at 9:35 am:
“What Did George Washington Have That I Don’t?”
BRAINS AND COMMON SENSE
…WOODEN TEETH, A HEMP PLANTATION AND SLAVES
John, that too
Pardon me but a lot of people seem to be surprised that Stuart Smally stole the election. That’s what democrat/liberals do. The only thing they know is fraud and deceit. It’s their stock in trade. Just look at the presidential election. They put an constitutionally unqualified bozo in the oval office.
This is so true. The Democrats with ACORN fraudulently won this election.
They are not democrats they are communist.An acorn and obama are being USED.
Did you guys know that before this election ..if you were a convicted felon you were not allowed to vote..Somehow before the election acorn was able to get the law changed and were able to register all of Obama
s brothers and sistas. You can not convince me they are only 12% of the population!!Debra,
You sound like a racist (with your brothas and sistas comment). I take exception to all of the racially charged comments, I am not saying that all comments are full of racial slurs and inuendos, but for those comments and side swipes that are, I take offence. Wake up Debra and the rest of you water downed KKK white sheet wearers unless the Republican party expands its tent to include all conservatives and make them feel welcomed (yes, bigots there are minorities who are conservatives and did not vote for President Obama!) you can kiss your chances of winning the White House good-bye for good! If you can not be civil and non-racist because the real Bible and the real Jesus taught this then perhaps your desire to have a conservative in the White House who will not tax us to poverty will give you pause to change your non-inclusive and offensive rhetoric.
GIVE THE RACIST REDERIC A BREAK WILL YAH,YALL HAVE ABOUT WORE THAT ONE OUT!
I know that ACORN helped Franken steal the election, what I don’t understand is how Coleman could let him get away with it.
Your dead wrong, It was the Supreme Court of MN that gave him the win and none of them are ACCORN members
It was Acorn, the Supreme court of Minn., and the electoral administration who ALL cost Coleman his rightful election into office – this was a travesty. It is criminal what happened – some precincts had more votes for Franken then they had citizens living in the pricinct. Do you really thing that Americans are going to stand by and keep letting this happen – you must be kidding. Honesty and truth will prevail in the end.HANG IN THERE COLEMAN – WE LOVE YA. jO
Why do you folks have so much issue with ACORN getting citizens of our country involved in the Democratic process? Stop watching FOX news, get out into the world, and meet these folks. You may be (pleasantly) surprised at what you find!
I have no problem with the goal ACORN originally had. What I have a problem with is the crooks it took them to become. A few dollars and they were more that willing to sell what integrity, assuming they ever had any, and spend time buying democrat/liberal votes. Did you know that the first place democrat/liberals went for votes were jails and bail bondsmen to get the worst of the worst for democrat/liberal votes? You really want criminals to vote democrat/liberal? The only reason they vote that way is because democrat/liberals are soft on crime and don’t believe in any kind of personal responsibility. That the kind of scum you want leading America? I guess so, Ted ( the murderer and drunk ) Kennedy gets elected year after year.
Well we agree on one thing
John the Carpenter-
I do know a lot of these folks and you’re right, many of them are good folks. However, being good folks and registering illegally is not synonymous.
Yes, I’ve met them in my neighborhood, and they are all ignorant boneheads, who will get exactly what they deserve when the government is taking 80% of their paycheck!
Gia, you’ve just proven who the ignorant bonehead is.
John the Carpenter Wrote:
July 20th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Why do you folks have so much issue with ACORN getting citizens of our country involved in the Democratic process? Stop watching FOX news, get out into the world, and meet these folks. You may be (pleasantly) surprised at what you find!
John; if you’d watched FOX, you too would have learned that ACORN had the entire Offensive Line of the Dallas Cowboys registered in Colorado…other reports were public from New Jersey and several other states… CNN, MSNBC, CBS didn’t break this for obvious reasons, we hope you can figure this one for yourself.
By “unqualified bozo”, I hope you are referring to George Bush and Dick Cheney! I lovingly refer to them as “Frank & Jesse James” because for the past 8 years, they took their own sweet time and totally and completely screwed this country up! Now you expect this president to remedy this mess overnight??? How unrealistic, but most importantly, how freaking unfair! I say this president should have as much time to repair this mess as the last two bufoons had to screw it up!
Palin / Coleman
2 1 1 2
No, thats Palin-Jindal 2012
Mark, I truly respect and admire Gov. Jindal. However, Unless I am mistaken he is not a NBC, in other words, his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth.
If I am wrong I would vote for him in a heartbeat. But I believe the constitution is more important that any politician.
His parents were on the legal path to become citizens so his birth made him a citizen,not like the millions of illegal that swam the rio grande to give birth in our country.. people need to know our laws and abide by them. That is what is wrong with this country,if you dont know the laws they cant be inforced and if you dont know our history we are doomed to repeat it DOOMED I SAY!!!!!
Doesn’t make any difference if his parents are citizens or not. If he was born in USA he’s a citizen of USA and eligible to be President.
Look folks, we are still not certain Obama has a valid birth certificate but the country put him in office. This government is a joke no wonder the world laughs at America. It is high time people open their eyes our freedoms are diappearing every day but you far left liberals like that don’t you? Just remember good will always prevail bad. The gene pool needs chlorine.
Ta ta bloggers
I believe if both parents are born here, and the baby is born abroad, like John McCain, you are a citizen. And If im not wrong, if neither parent is a citizen, but the child is born on American soil, he or she is a citizen. I may be wrong, but Im thinking that is how it is.
YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. JO
To Paul and Average Joe – Dennis Kucinich, are you serious? Ron Paul I could run with, but Dennis Kucinich is one of the biggest whack jobs Ive ever seen, and he didnt do very well in Ohio when he was in office now did he? I believe he turned out to be a real stinker.
@Dee: ” we are still not certain Obama has a valid birth certificate” You CRACK ME UP! Come on! Get serious!
Palin / Bachmann 2012
Actually we need to get away from this Repub/Dem thing…a two headed one party system…How about…Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich 2012?..the two most sensible “elected” officials in the capitol.
[Reply]AkCoyote Reply: July 17th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Palin / Bachmann 2012
Oh I hope so, Obama would then rack up the biggest landslide in history.
Matt, you are right, this political split in the nation is not healthy. This came about with the take over of the free airways being used as a propaganda tool for corporate and far right interest. You can drive coast to coast, the AM airways are saturated with this far right disinformation 24hrs a day. It has become cult like that the days talking points are spewed by all the right wing shock jocks and regurgitated by the sheep that follow them. The 20 to 24 percent conservatives that(base) make up most of the Republican party couldn’t win a dog catchers race without the Independents and Moderates who have left the party. the far right fiscal and religious have hijacked the GOP. With the de facto leader(Limbaugh)ranting and raving about flushing and purging the party of Moderates and Rinos, the GOP will have only the hard right left. Try running a Gingrich/Palin, Huckbee/Palin, Perry/Palin or any other two far right wing nuts for the two top positions and the GOP will go down to a worst defeat than Goldwater in 1964. Most Americans are in the middle of the political spectrum as illustrated in the last election. We now have a new phenomenon occurring, the largest demographic change in American history. The new wave of illegal immigrants perpetuated by both parties Democrats wanting votes and Republicans wanting cheap labor. The GOP has lost this vote, I know I live in South Texas. The same radical Latino groups that put 500,000 in the streets of L.A. will sign them up for the Democratic party as soon as a comprehensive immigration bill(Amnesty) passes. This will put 13 to 30 million on the Democrat roles. The reactionary political ideology of the obstructionist party of NO, will have to make a major change or the nuts left in the GOP can ride a dead horse to the ground. Then you go the way of the Whigs.
Here Here, Average Joe, in my view these are the only 2 guys that should be running the show.
Obama will rack up the biggest landslide in history because the Repubs don’t have anyone! Sarah Palin, GIVE ME A BREAK! LOL!!!!!!! You guys KNOW you have no chance, that’s why you got your panties are all bunched up. Adapt or perish. That’s the best advice anyone could give you folks.
Great Idea! Palin/Bachmann 2012 You guys could call it the nutcase ticket.
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Franken won fair and square and coleman made an ass out of himself by not conceding.He ( Coleman ) did niot deserve to win.
I think that it would be great if Palin and Coleman run in the next election.That will mean a landslide victory for Obama and that would be verry good news for all Americans and the rest of the world.The Republicans did not learn a thing ,Just more ignorance all around.
Its hard to believe that republicans wanting to destroy all our institutions and even the constitution think that America is going to support that.That is the diffinition of terrorism.
How about some honest republicans coming foward with some new ideas that are for America instead of against us?
Shame on the voters for exercising their democratic rights. Every right wing American conservative has a dictator heart. You are for democracy as long as your candidate wins… otherwise you don’t like the system. As for stealing elections, the biggest steal of all was Bush in 2000…. A guy loses the popular vote has his brother rig half the voting machines in Florida and gets a conservative Supreme Court to support him and becomes president. Oh well, we reaped what we sowed. Biggest (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) 8 year headache in history.
Best 8 years of my life. My business I work for prospered, I doubled my income, bought a new house, life was good, and I was safe. Now, Ive had my pay cut by 10 percent, had my overtime cut off, my employer has had to lay off 25 guys, and that has not, I repeat has not happened here for the almost 14 years Ive been here. The dude, and to be honest, its really not Obama, but the democratic party that is to blame here, because face it, he is just the figure head of these wankers, but theyve spent in less than 10 months what they bitched about the previous admin spending in 8 years, and that included funding a war, 9-11 and hurricane Katrina. Bush did the best job Ive ever seen a President do since Ronald Reagan, and he was under attack constantly by the left wing liberal propaganda machine of ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN and MSNBC all the time. He was unfairly lambasted in the press, and his reputation ruined to the undeducated American, by a bunch of jealous democrat bastards that just couldnt stand that a guy actually came into office and did exactly what he said he would do. Oh, and by the way, where’s the oil? You know, the illegal war for oil Bush & Cheney and Halliburton were waging? Remember your ilk crying that for at least a couple of years? Where is the oil you little wanker? Thats what I thought, so I ask you, why is Obama waging war on these guys for their oil? Why is he conducting this illegal escalation into Afghanistan? What kind of war monger is he, talking about pre-emptive strikes on North Korea. Oh my God, he is a war monger, quick, curl up into the fetal position, you bunch of lying pacifist appeasing pants wetting little girls. See the truth, accept the truth. It will set you free. When history is revealed for what it actually is, as it does over a span of years, Bush’s greatness will be shown, as has Carter’s worthlessness, Lyndon Johnsons escalation of Vietnam to make millions for him and his business cronies, Kennedy winning the election with thousands of votes from dead people in Chicago, and Clinton’s selling us down the road to China and Mexico, and his allowing the muslim terrorists to repeatedly blow stuff up and do nothing, along with his sinking our banking system with his boys Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, and Jamie Gorelick. You guys can cry and cite all the bull you want, but fact is fact, and you cant change fact. History is, what it is. And it doesnt fare well for you democrats. Even FDR was a lying connniving bastard, and we are still paying today for the crap he did. So lie all you want, point fingers all you want, just look in the mirror and see the cause of your angst. The truth will set you free.
Amen brother.
ILL SECOND THAT. MARK IS REAL CLOSE TO RIGHT!!! ED
Wow, Mark, I could not have said it better, you go boy!
I agree with with and will add that, I do believe we have already seen the Obama legacy, He won’t, WON’T, produce a valid Birth Certificate, any legal records to his validity of attending schools here in the United States, college included, has spent millions from his high powered lawyers to stop anyone acquiring this info. He has met with the most liberal, socialistic, dictators and has “reached out in friendship to them”, Bowed to a Saudi King, knowing full well what that entails, he grew up Muslim, his own words, so he knew fully what bowing to a King meant, subsurvience. He’s using Al Capone means to strong arm the congress to agreee and sign everything he puts in front of them without reading a thing, but giving them bribes to their states, undermining the constitution that our founding fathers designed to give us a principle to live free of tyranny. His Change is to make this country a socialistic country, and to bankrupt everyone so we have no choice. I say if you want to be socialistic, live the United States, go to Canada, France, Great Britain, Europe, Russia, pick one and go.
Ditto Mark,
Bush inherited a tremendous burden with 911 and the katrina as well as an economy that had begun to fail during the latter part of the clinton years…….I don’t agree with all of his policies, thought he was a little too liberal with the illegal immigrants but for the most part I felt he did a great job and when he spoke, it came from his heart……..He may not have been as smooth as this president but his strength came through and I do believe he was a true patriot…….This present administration in six months has caused this country to come to the brink of a black hole that if we don’t stop this wild spending and careless regard for our constitution and our laws we will never recover from……..I think it is time for “all” americans to take hold of their senses and to study the impact of this mans policies……How can anyone condone the way he has maligned america as he speaks across the world…….He is president of the united states and I don’t think he understands that….he is not the leader of the world. He owes his allegiance to us…….not to foreign governments or foreign ideals……Our constituion and our values are foremost and “Our LIberty” should be defended by our leader…….I don’t understand why it is not clear to everyone who can reason that we are following a far different path than what our country was founded on……WAKE UP AMERICA ….. Before it is too late!
You that sit so complacently waiting for the great one to drop all of the gifts he has promised you are in for a tremendous jolt when you realize that you will also be suffering right along with those of us who work hard and don’t expect our government to take care of us…….Its is time for all of us to take responsibility for our own actions and not to expect special treatment if we don’t deserve it……..This country was once a great and wonderful place for all to succeed if they applied themselves and worked hard…now it seems that only those who work hard are going to be punished and made to pay for those who would have no idea what it means to apply themselves and prosper. We are a generous nation and have always generously given to those in need……but times are changing………
Our very LIBERTY is in jeopardy and we need to take heed of this……….pay attention and not allow our government to control all aspects of our lives…….I am a grandmother and I do not wish to see my grandchildren burdened forever with such tremendous debt that they will be forced to pay through taxes and restrictions imposed by those in power……
I want those in power to know that 2010 is coming and that is where we will show our power at the ballot box……..people are angry at the total disregard for their thoughts and words being ignored by this congress and this president…………
Elizabeth – If you believe that I’ve got a little land just south of Miami to sell ya.
Unreal. 9/11 happens on Bush’s watch because he and Condi Liesalot and others didn’t bother with all the intelligence left in their laps by the previous admin, they lie to make a case for war, and then proceed to take all the regulatory teeth out of our banking system creating an economic meltdown………but it’s Clinton’s fault.
Yeah right — 8 years of peace and prosperity under Clinton…along comes Bush and all the republicans to throw our country to the wolves…and it is still somehow Clinton’s fault.
Your complete ignorance of history and reality are amazing.
To Mark & Elizabeth, I fully agree with your statements. Let’s not forget about the “tsanami” that was also during President Bush’s years in office. I truly believe President Bush will go down in history as one of the “GREATEST PRESIDENTS” we’ve ever had. How he did it with all the attacks from the Liberals is a miracle in itself. Just look what is happening now with this “racist” Sotomayor? All the praise they are giving her is unbelievable. Did they do the same for any of President Bush’s nominations? ? Mr. Gonzales also came from a poor background etc. Did any of you see tears flowing for him? They treated him just as unfairly. What about Robert Borjk?
Palin & Duncan for 2012. God Bless America and our troops.Thanks for your sacrifices.
More people need to state the facts, the liberals can only lie
Mark, your so full of yourself
Au contraire, Smilee. You and your coercive utopian cohorts are full of it. You love confiscating other people’s money and giving it to lifelong leeches.
right now all the dems have their fingers in their ears and are crying out “Nah, Nah, Nah ,Nah, Nah! I can’t hear you!!!”
wow your not that smart fox news anchors will get somebody killed
wow mark – what a rant. So you’re one of those 21%’s who think Bush and the republicans who were in charge while our economy crumbled and a war based on lies waged, was doing the right thing.
Seeing as how the republican’ts got their arses handed to them this last election it would appear no many folks agree with your take on history…especially historians.
But you go on getting your news from FOX and surrounding yourself by those nutwhack teabaggin ballickin intollerant noisy dingbats.
Good thing Al Gore did not make it as President. He is just as stupid as Franken. Maybe not he is trying to hoodwink us with his so called Global Warming lies so he can become the first GREEN multi billionarre> God Help Us ALL!!!!
Oh my gosh, can you imagine? Him and G.E. would have made us all buy those 25 thousand dollar solar panels for our houses, and our neighborhoods would all look like crap. Funny, how geological scientists say the ice caps are getting bigger, and the planet is actually cooling. Even the mayflies on Lake Erie took an extra month to hatch this year because the water wasnt warmed up enough. Yeah, Al Gore and global warming. Talk about the big lie. That guy stood to make billions if he got us all to buy into it. It was all about money. Him and Franken should make a movie together, title it “blind leading the blind”.
THAT FAT PIGGG
@Mark: Dude, you didn’t “buy” a house, you borrowed it from a bunch of unregulated theives. The financial state your in now, (which I’m sure isn’t THAT terrible, after all Mark, how much weight have you lost from not being able to feed yourself and your family? What terrible hardship have you had to endure besides not be able to buy more even more unecessary crap to clog up your home and our landfills), was caused by Bush and Co. and the policies put in place by and since Reagan was in office. What were your comments when we had elected and ACTOR as president? He sure fooled you! And you talk about the truth setting you free? THAT’s why you are still so damn miserable, you do not, or maybe CAN NOT see the truth, no matter how blatant it is. Reagan, Bush and Co. WERE the BEST presidents ever at over-inflating an already artificially overinflated economy. THAT is why the value of our dollar is dropping so quickly, NOT because some immigrants work their asses off to feed their families back home, or a single mom collects food stamps to feed her kids since dad was killed in Iraq fighting for the right to control the flow of petroleum in SOMEONE ELSE’S COUNTRY. Come on now, be honest. Even a blind man knows when the sun is shining! You and the rest of these right wing, greedy, racist, nut jobs just need some love, don’t you?
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2 daves huh? One that doesn’t like science so therefor is a denialist when it comes to global warming…and then there’s me…one of a vast majority who understands what global warming is and isn’t swayed by right wing denialists.
realclimate.org
wow you put alot of emotion into that one.
Yeah, we have global warming that is why it was 60 degrees ths am in Georgia, wake up lambs before the Lion eats you
dee doesn’t know the difference between climate and one day’s weather. Typical wingnut.
Dee please give global warming a chance. I started a campaign for my neighborhood, you can too. Start by collecting all the communities used oil. In the midnight hour dump it down the storm drains or ditches. If everyone got together we could easily counter the whole go green stuff.
John the Carpenter, you need to go back to Syria, Iran, Moscow, or what ever hell hole you came from. My life is great, thank you. Obama just wants me to pay for some (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) that doesnt want to work, and I take issue with that, thats all.
Hey robin, I see you are still breathing good air, But I think I fould you a mate, If you promise not to breed, To make more IDIOT”S,LIER”S,THEIVES,& the most corrupt imoral SNAKES,AMERICA has ever seen, Robin meet norm,I see you two parasites, still to coward to watch other net works,Other than the goverment news, hussein obama LOST THE popular vote, You stupid (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) little mouse,IT was in chicago were that sick twisted slob franks lives with his low down trash thugs,That bullied descent AMERICANS tryed to vote,hussein did not win (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) lied strong armed the ballot, With acorn, But one find day you blind little nothing,Will see how WRONG you are, When your arrogant (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT), Is liveing in a card board box, My nobody should be that scard to learn the truth,How can you look at anybody knowing you don”t have any pride,or respect for yourself, It must be hard being a loser,& follower, I thought more of the people in minnesota, As proud American’s,But after al franken, They need to rename there state to barmun & bayle, What in the hell were they thinking, They could not see what or who franken is DAMN!!.Where in the hell do you think pelosi,reid,murthar,franks & the damn good old boy kennedy,hussein,bullsh– health plan going to get all this trillons of dollars from, WERE, FROM US (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)!!!
Just a quick FYI 60 percent of Minnesotans did not want Al Franken.
Why can’t we have a computer database of the vote? We could have two databases, both accessible to the public. One would contain the information for each person who voted (name, address or driver’s license number, or whatever necessary to authenticate that person). The other would contain the information of how each person voted. The ID for each of the voters in the “how voted” database would be an alphanumeric ID which would be known only to the voter. This could be accomplished easily by pairing the voting form with a stub containing the same alphanumeric ID as the form. There would be no public record of who got which form so the person’s vote would be completely secret.
That way the individual could access the database and make sure that his/her vote was recorded correctly. If not, they could file a public protest. Also,
the two databases could be counted to make sure that there was only one vote per voter. And the database of who voted could be perused by any public body who wanted to check to make sure that “Dead People” and others who aren’t allowed didn’t vote.
Who would object to this kind of voting accountability? We need to do something now about the voter fraud that is going on and I think that this would be the perfect solution.
Dave, Pres, BUSH tryed to get a bill passed to Stop all the lieing,falsehoods,half trues,But the (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) said hell no,They would hot listen, Look at pelosi,She is a naturel born lier,She has sucker the people of Calif, To the point of no return,Boxer, had to pay unpayed tax”es, Before she was installed in the GREAT EVIL cabinet, Along with the head of the IRS, (99% of hussein’s power thugs, Are tax cheats,or under some kind of investgation, For fraud,takeing some kind of bribes,or corruption,Hell barney franks, Got kicked out under Pres. Bush, For haveing young gay men & boy’s,for a price to party’s, reid, has fooled the people of NV, & raised tax’es, & done nothing to help them or America but piss & momme, Take about lame duck,If pelosi farts,his nose is there to catch it, If you don’t watch the state news, OR you can call Mass, for prove, The biggest terrorist of all ted kennedy’s, GREAT health plan is failing as we speak, These puppets are scard of G E, And that thug in NY,That STOP THE INVESTAGATION, Of acorn of stealing millon’s from us, I don’t care what party you are in, This will one day go down in the history book’s as the most imoral, GODLESS, Bunch of thives, American as ever seen, Oh by the way, Do you remember when we went to saudi arabia, the most DISCUSSING LOW CLASS TRASH,REPORTERS, PUT OUR HEROS IN DANGER WITH THEIR FLOOD LIGHTS,CAMERS,On our troops, What kind of trash is that?. Every time Pres. Bush tryed to stop Another type of TERRORIST, In another country, A TRAIDOR, TERRORIST IN CONGRESS, LEAKED WHAT EVER WE WERE GOING TO DO TO THE TERRORIST OWN NY TIMES< TO PUT IT ON THE AIR TO WARN THE TERRORIST OUT SIDE OF AMERICA, THAT IS WHY VICE PRES. CHENEY, DID NOT TELL CONGRESS, AND ESPECIALLY THE DAMN DEMON-CRAPS,ALL they do is try to blame their crap one someone else, Turn on them selves, Look at what hussein, Did to a supposed to be chirstian collage, Would not go to speak untill they cover up JESUS, And these ANTI-CHIRST DID!!.I think America is not sick of this crap yet, To get these old parasites out of office yet, Most of them are so arrogant or so weak, To really see what these thugs have or doing to AMERICA, They have given our jobs away for years,And we keep putting these sine back in office ever damn term, What will it take to get people to elect & NOT RELECT, WHEN you think you are above the law, & make the law, YOUCAN BREAK THE LAW, WHY CAN’T WE HAVE A VOTE ON HEALTH CARE, CAP & TRADE, OR ANYTHING, WHERE IS OUR RIGHT TO DECIDE ON SOMETHING, WE ARE NOT STUPID, OR SOME OF US ARENT ANYWAY.
Wow-what a moronic rant. By the way it’s “liar” not “lier”. When you mispell even simple words you look like the gullible idiot you are.
David H,
Why can’t we just have a simple version.
Mark your vote on a ballot.
Fold the ballot like a letter.
Place the ballot in a clear lucite box in the precinct, in full public veiw at all times.
Counted 3 times by three different party heads(Republican,Democrat and a Independent) in full veiw of the public at all times and post the results on a board before calling the statehouse with voting results.
Why does it need to be any more complicated than that?
Technology can be a wonderful thing, but some things just do not require it.
As a example, google a documentary called “Hacking Democracy”. It won awards for investigative reporting and journalism.
Dave great idea! But to take it even further why don
t they let us vote on every bill that those evil people try to pass.(Pelosi,Reid,Dodd,Barney fag,..) With tech.the way is today they should be to put into every houshold,perhaps a ding or red light to remind people to vote. The way it is now those idiots are shoving thru their on agenda..and it is ruining this country. And you know they really would not need to be in DC anymore, and they could stay in their on state and find out what the people really want. TOO...Nancy Pelosi would have to give up her 727 jet that she jets around in. Think about all those jets ,the fuel saved, and the decrease in polutions.Yeah...thats the ticket..let`s throw their sorry asses out of town,Debra, we live in a Republic. We have no right to vote on every or any bill these vermin propose. If you really wish to make a change for the better, if you wish for a return to the Rule of Law, you have only one real option. At the next election, local, state or national, vote out the incumbent. The only true loss would be that Ron Paul would be out of office. But that would be small price to pay to put the fear of God into these power mad dastardly swine out of our White House, Congress, State Capital, or City government.
I agree… Barry wants to change things and as quickly as possible. Maybe the next term our new president will see the need to revamp the voting procedure. Dems wouldn’t want to change anything because it gets them elected the way it is. But, if it was an honest election, a lot of Dems would be packing their bags and looking for work!
You are a wise man, my friend. Until we gain some control of illegal votes (dead people, non-existent people, illegal aliens, those registered 75 times by Acorn, etc) we can expect the election outcomes not to be what the real people voted for. After that, someone should tell the voting public in general that just because they voted for someone who proved to be nothing more than a self-serving crook, they don’t have to keep re-electing them. We need to set term limits which is going to be difficult, considering that the people who have to vote for them are the ones who would be unemployed if term limits passed. My Dad’s political philosphy was “Vote for whoever’s not in office. It’ll take them awhile to get their hands in our pockets.”. The older I get, the wiser my Dad seems.
Irate stupid grandma,
All your paranoid delusions about ACORN are wasted energy. Sure they shouldn’t have had quotas when registering voters, which led to some rather funny name being put on those lists…..but the key point is………IT DOESN’T BECOME FRAUD UNLESS MICKEY MOUSE OR DONALD DUCK ACTUALLY SHOW UP TO VOTE.
Republicans have set up this strawman in ACORN and just keep beating it. Now it looks like that O’Keefe joker is in some hot water along with the wingnuts who funded him.
Have fun beating your strawman.
We all know republicans don’t like acorn so much is because they are set up to help the poor and needy and minorities without a voice. And poor minorities don’t break republican at the polls. Angry old white people don’t hate acorn for some overblown contrived and paid for controversy….they don’t like acorn because acorn helps get blacks to the polling booth.
wow daveH – you’re as dimwitted as irategrandma.
Do some research on Diebold….the company who supplied the voting machines in Ohio for Bush in 04. They’ve been in such deep doo doo they’ve since changed their name. Read all the headlines regarding the CEO of that outfit and his connections to Bush.
Interesting read.
I agree something needs to be done with the current system that allowed Bush to win in 2000 with a minority of the votes and again in 04 with the Diebold scandal.
Beating up on acorn won’t help. Remember…the ONLY way those bogus registered names on those lists become actual fraud IS IF MICKEY MOUSE OR DONALD DUCK ACTUALLY SHOWED UP AT THE VOTING BOOTH…AND NONE OF THEM DID…IE NO FRAUD. The only thing you need to change by those canvassers is to not have them paid through a quota system…thus no incentive to lengthen the list of names by an means.
Robin, that’s what I like about you liberal zombies…..you never have the real facts. You just mouth the party line. Conservatives hold the constitution dear. Something you obviously have never read. The President is elected by Electoral College vote, not popular vote. If you don’t like that, then start a constitutional amendment. As for your other uninformed comment about Jeb Bush rigging half the voting machine…Florida didn’t use voting machines in 2000. They used punch cards. That was the “Hanging Chad” recount exercise. I suggest you spend less time on the blogs and more time educating yourself. Read the Communist Manifesto, Mien Kampf, Orwell’s “1984” and Saul Alinsky’s ‘ Rules for Radicals” These are the books your hero Obama has read, loves and emulates on a daily basis. BTW, how is that Hope & Change working out for you?
Machines were used in Florida to count the holes left by the punched chads you dingbat.
The mindless lemmings on the right are amazing. Facts don’t matter, just noise and banter and fearmongering. FOX and right wing talk radio are great at all three. Not only do they spew misinformation, their distortions are so blantant as to make them laughable.
Glenn Beck, Hannity, Rush, Michell Malkin, Mike (Weiner) Savage and the other usual suspects deceive only those stupid enough to let them.
The poor run of the mill conservative has no home. The republican party has been taken over by dangerous radicals.
If thats the way you see it, have another lude.
WHEN ARE YOU DEMS GOING TO FIGURE OUT THAT B.O. IS A COMMUNIST AT HEART WITH A BUNCH OF COMMUNIST CZARS AND AN AGENDA THAT WILL DESTROY OUR FREE ENTERPRISE ECONOMY IF HE STAYS IN OFFICE AND DESTROY ALL YOUR FREEDOMS AND THE CONSTITUTION AND YOUR BILL OF RIGHTS!!! – VOTE ALL THE LIBERAL DEM COMMIES OUT – 2010 AND 2012
Wow Joann – paranoid and stupid. What a way to go through life.
By the way…One of Franken’s books is “Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot”….no “Liar”. You obviously didn’t read the book, Chipster.
Al won because Coleman was one of the sleaziest guys on capital hill and all the failed republican policies of the prior 8 years came home to roost.
If republicans actually offered up different policies instead of those which are known failures (tax breaks for the wealthiest 3% and deregulate everything in sight so crooks can take advantage and rabid anti immigration, and pro-intollerance) they might wing some folks over. But the poor republican party has been taken over by fanatics who now control the radical republican message which is reinforced on FOX Noise and right wing talk radio.
It’s failed republican policy that put our nation on its ear and if republican candidates just keep preaching the same mantra the republican party is toast.
This has noting to do with the subject at hand…DIRECTLY…but very important regaurdless.
Isn’t this just great… Illinos Capital of Corruption
Mosque Foundation websitereports that Sheikh Kifah Mustapha recently completed a four day training session in Springfield
Radical Fundraiser Becomes Illinois Police Chaplain
By Editor Thursday, January 7, 2010
Previously on the IPT blog we stressed the need for the Defense Department’s Islamic Chaplaincy program to adopt a stricter vetting process, citing historically radical imams who have served in the program.
Now the same can be said for the chaplaincy program for the Illinois State Police. The Mosque Foundation websitereports that Sheikh Kifah Mustapha recently completed a four day training session in Springfield, Illinois to become the first certified Muslim chaplain for the Illinois State Police.
Mustapha’s name appears on a list of unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land Foundation (HLF) Hamas financing trail, which ended with sweeping convictions in November of 2008. On this list he is identified as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestine Committee.
There is more to the story…
and I am sure it doesn’t get better
I was talking with a friend from California, and he told me that Al Franken owes thousands in California taxes he refuses to pay. Is this true and how can he get away with that if so.
Simple. He is a LIBERAL. They don’t have to pay taxes. If you don’t believe it just look at Osama bin Biden’s cabinet
yea, or chevron’s
Thats the rules. Democrats raise taxes on all, but they are above paying them, because according to them, their (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) dont stink.
I love hearsay… you can get away with any drivel you want. Just make something up… say you heard it somewhere and then start debating it as if it’s already true. Give your heads a collective shake… you’re blind idiots.
Boy do I ever agree with you Rodin, the Democrats are indeed blind idiots.
You were just earlier embracing the theory that Florida’a election was rigged for Bush. Is not what’s good for the goose, good for the gander? And do you think name-calling wins the debate?
DaveH,
So in your opinion…Two wrongs make it right? Tomorrow morning ..pour yourself a extra bowl of stupid…you’ll get there faster…not that I don’t think you’re getting real close at this point.
‘They say,” the road to ruin is paved by good intentions”, and we keep making potholes’
Real intelligent Average, I was just using the same phrase Rodin used. Most people on this board can communicate/debate without needing to resort to the manipulation of name-calling.
Rodin,
I’m afraid you are the “Blind Idiot”. From Wikipedia “On April 29, 2008, Franken released a statement noting that he will pay about $70,000 in back income taxes in 17 states dating to 2003.” Of course he will pay when he gets caught. Gee, what a great society, we get completely exonerated if we pay after we get caught.
Spiro Agnew got screwed when his bookeeper failed to declare $13,000 in income when he was gov of MD. Compare that to our bandit sec of treasury who got away with a whole lot more over multi years and had even been warned by the IRS. He gets promoted!! Wow, have we changed or what??
I dont think he will pay. Hes a democrat.
You must have had a horrible childhood Rodin. You have so much hate inside. All you do is say rude things to everyone. Take a break from it all. SNAP INTO A SLIMJIM!
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BECAUSE HE IS A CONGRESSMAN NOW AND THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW. WHY DO YOU THINK HE RAN FOR CONGRESS, ALTHOUGH HE IS RATED THE SECOND MOST STUPID CONGRESSMAN IN THE WHITEHOUSE OR WASHINGTON.
Brian,
WELL STATED!!!
lol
ditto!!!
I am ashamed that our president is siding with dictators and subbing those fighting for democracy in Honduras. It amazes me just how much President Obama appears to like dictators like Chavez & Castro. Hummmm….maybe he’s admiring their positions too.
There is a lot that is finally coming out about our President. (or is he?)
Stay tuned, listen up, and rise up to do something about it.
Going to Washington on Sept. 12 for the million person march of protest? I’ll be there, even if it does no good.
YEP
Amen to that!
He still refuses to submit his birth certificate. I still think he was born in Kenya. The dems shoved an illegal upon this country.
Dave
That’s dumb.
Dave Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
He still refuses to submit his birth certificate. I still think he was born in Kenya. The dems shoved an illegal upon this country.
Dave the supreme court put an end to this when it would not hear this silly lawsuit, its all over and done with, the effort failed, the burden of proof was on the guy who filed the lawsuit and and not Obama. So why should he furnish it. Have you read this lawsuit, I have it really is a big joke, no evidence just a lot of accusations with nothing to back it up . See any evidence on the net, I have not, don’t you think if there was some it would be on every conservative websight on the net and then maybe others might take it serious. It is a dead horse when you going to quit beating it????
very true, McCain had to produce his why did Obama not even get questioned by the Media?? And why had he not still produced a Valid document? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, Kenya, Muslim, bows to a King, HMMMMMMM if it looks like a duck, must be a
Smilee,
Apparently you don’t keep abreast of current events, the Supreme court has recently agreed to hear a few of those cases.They were turned down originally because of the way in which they were filed….they have since been amended and will be heard.
Of course some of us are saddend that we are just not as all knowing as you…please forgive us…as for why he should produce the original long form birth certificate….because there IS doubt and therefore is constitutionally mandated…You Smilee, are nothing more than a Troll…
Smilee, what the hell? What do you mean why should he have to show his birth certificate? You bet your sweet bippy if he was a republican, this is all you would be hearing everyday on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC, as every democrat would be on there crying for it to be shown every stinking day, and you know what, I would agree with them, as I am not blind to my party not being perfect. The law is the law and the constitution is to be upheld. The President is to be a US Citizen, and your guy has failed to prove it so, and I think thats because he cant do it. You get so angry Smilee when someone says something about your great Obama, even if its true. I want my President to be a citizen as called for by our constitution, and I cant believe you dont. Could it be Smilee, that you are racist, and because Obama is black you will blindly back anything he does? Yes, I think thats it. I have read your rants here, and you my friend, are a bigotted racist. I myself dont care what color the guy is, I want to know he is a citizen, black, white or red, yellow, it doesnt matter. If he is a white guy, and not a citizen, I want him out. But it seems to you, he can do no wrong, even though he keeps making mistake after mistake, but see, unlike you, I recognize that its not really him making all these bonehead moves, its his democrat party. He can only do what congress and his cronies direct him to do. It is all blowing up, and they are going to throw him under the bus to save their hinies. Watch and see. And please, when it happens, if you play the race card, play it on the democrats that pitch him under the bus, not on the other party.
TRYING TO TALK SENSE TO LIBRAL IS LIKE TRYING TO DRIVE A TOOTHPICK THROUGH A CINDERBLOCK!
good liberal is a dead liberal
Mark,
You only know how to express your self in your own crated fantasized fiction, you do not know how to recognize the truth. Your president is a natural born citizen the vital statistics office in Hawaii has looked at their records and certified his birth certificate is valid and that he fact was born in Hawaii, in addition the courts have ruled that all these lawsuits claiming otherwise lack standing and the appeal to the Supreme Court refused to hear them and left standing the lower courts findings. The rest of your post does not require a response as it is nothing more than fiction in the standard conservative prattle. In another words 100& BS
Average Joe Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Its you that does not keep abreast these lawsuits were dismissed because the plaintiff lacked standing and you cannot amend that, you could file a new lawsuit with different set of facts and I do not know if that has been done. The Supreme court refused to hear these cases and left standing the findings of the lower courts making this final. The long form is the form that is supplied to the vital statistics office from which they make the official certified birth certificate and it is on file but they do not release them as it is only the basis of the certified one that the office in this case says is a correct and accurate reflection of the long form and the official record, it is only the form the hospital furnishes the information to their office on.
If a new lawsuit is filed and it has standing then it will go to trial where it is filed and work its way up to the supreme court for review if appealed but its not likely this effort will ever succeed as it is nothing more than conservative fiction and by keeping it filed they can convince the likes of all those making that claim on here and other place in other words it is their method of keeping this conservative prattle ongoing by giving them reason to keep repeating this fiction and hope to all those who want so bad to believe this BS.. Wake up you are fighting a losing battle. Don’t blame me, what I say has no relevance on this matter I only passed on the facts and had no part in their creation
Smilee:
You don’t know what you’re talking about as I’ve personally seen a copy of his “produced” “birth certificate” and it is only a “live-birth” certificate, not a “sealed” birth certificate. His mother was 8-months pregnant in Kenya and was not allowed to board a long-distance flight as it poses a risk of inducing labor….so….Obama’s mother traveled to Hawaii AFTER he was born and as he had no citizenship was only issued a “live-birth” certificate without a seal. This doesn’t qualify as birth-right “citizenship.”
Get your facts straight…oh, wait…what am I thinking; left-wing liberals don’t rely on facts..just opinions…silly me.
Bottom line, if Obama has nothing to hide…why not produce evidence to put the matter to rest. By the way Mark….you are right, if Obama were a Republican, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, et al would be all over the story! The fact that the matter has been “hushed” brings suspicion does it not? As for which Party…who cares…law is law and regardless of which Party you represent, we ALL should agree that the law of the land supercedes all else.
Well the big O just want’s a third- firth- fifth term ECT. and with the UN’s help and a packed suprem court he might get it.
I hate to tell you this but OBAMA has already repealed the 22nd Amendment to now read something like a “lifetime” term! Signed during the night of course. Check it out. Those may not be the exact words but it means the same thing….people should know that he (Obama) has already not only walked all over The Constitution but has tampered with it too.
linda trebe Reply: uly 17th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Oh Linda, Linda, no president can change the constitution. the constitution denys him any role in amending it, Only the congress and the states can do that. He cannot propose a change or have a vote or anything with amendments to it , if you do not know this about the constitution then do you really know anything about it, and the question then arises then how has he walked all over it and tampered with it, you neglected to tell us these facts. Sounds to be little a a statement a ditto head would make
Obama has asked us to be patient. The stimulus is designed to work over a 2 year period. TRANSLATION: In 2 years
America will be completely socialist; the Supreme Court will be “in his pocket”; the Constitution will be just an old piece of paper; Obama will be “President for Life” and it will be too late to change back.
Smilee….Jumped in a little too quick there didn’t you. Read it again!!! Linda was simply making fun of Obama and his total disregard for the Constitution. If he can ignore it and take actions contrary to it, then what is the difference if he actually took a sharpie and changed it. Either way, the result is the same!!!! No, I am not a ditto head but I can most certainly tell you are an idiot waiting for their handout!
Hey, smilley,Do us a favor,Look up on how got her position,I have heard from the news media.That acording to the constitution,She or no one can serve as secretary of state,Because of her past position’s,But she is a demon-craft,But please for the love of GOD!,Don’t go to the goverment own media,Those little puppet’s are to scard to say anything against hussein,or the demon’s,Or they would lose their job’s,If they new the truth,And was to tell it,But they are not men or women,They don’t have a mind,They are loser’s,These imoral,no pride, They would sell their mother’s,& children,To save their useless sole’s,no they don’t have a real sole,Their BOUGHT MIND’S,& THOUHGT’S, So please tell us how hillary,Has this job.
David and Dickie, I will not respond directly to your statements as you quite clearly show us by your posts how little you understand what the Constitution is and does and also how little you understand how government works. David, you could of fooled me you sure talk like ditto head and ditto heads can only respond as their masters permit, its clear you both do that.
Dude do you read the papers? Might want to start.
What papers? The New York Times ? Good Grief.
Your right! No news is better than slanted news.
Or the LA Times. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC. You know, these days you will get more truth out of the National Enquirer than any of these so called media outlets. They are all owned by democrats, and are their propaganda machine. How do you think change change change worked? Thats right, the power of marketing. People heard it a billion times, and didnt get educated, and now look what is happening. Its sad.
I cancelled my newspaper subscription because the only truth I could find in it was in the Sports section, and even those guys are cheating now. Dems own almost all the news outlets, and Im not supporting their left wing pacifist appeasing pants wetting agenda. I just say no.
If you want bias try Fox, Rush, Sean, O’rielly etc. etc.
Actually Norm, quite the opposite. They truly are the only ones who will say bad things about their party when it needs said. The report the truth, whether we want to hear it or not. While ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN and MSNBC seem to have the belief that the democrats can do no wrong, and they do not report objectionally, and let us make up our own minds. They tell us how it is with their left wing agenda based opinions, so I stopped watching them also. Do you really not know Norm, why Fox has higher ratings then all these guys? Do you really not know? America wants the truth, and Fox News, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck seem to be the only ones with enough guts to deliver it. I myself, prefer the truth over agenda based material. Thats why I tune in to these guys, as to more Americans than the other left wing liberal biased channels.
Judging by your responses here in that you refuse to listen to all sides and only listen to one side, Mark, is an admission on your part that you have a very closed mind and to keep from confusing it you listen only to FOX which does nothing to encourage thinking which I doubt you are capable of.
To Smilee, no, actually, I just happen to be able to tell the difference between the truth and lies, as its not that hard to figure out. At least Fox lets me decide, whereas the others present it like its fact, when its their opinion, which is 90 percent of the time biased and wrong. I wont accept that. I know the truth, and wont stand for lies. Im not a democrat.
Hillary is in Kenya right now, trying to get the real birth certificate and destroy it.
And why are you surprised that he would side with those dictators. I would have been surprised had he not sided with them.
I’m not surprised…just ashamed of him for doing so. Of course, I believe he’d like to be one himself.
I thought everyone had figured that one out by now. He has spent his life preparing for that. But the thing he signed to make him president for life would need a constitutional convention to become law. It is encouraging that many liberals are turning against him. they have stopped drinking the kool-aid.
And the former head of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, was not a dictator?
Are you saying that just because Rush, Sean and Glenn Beck speak the truth and expose what the left wing liberals are up to, that this makes them dictators? I never realized that speaking the truth meant that. I always thought of a dictatorship as the kind of do as I say, not as I do type of thing, kind of what the democrats try to set up all the time. You know, where we dont have to be bothered with little things like the CONSTITUTION, you know, where the president needs to be a citizen, or we try to take away peoples rights to have guns, where we employ terrorist cells like ACORN to illegally register people to vote. Yeah, things like that are what I always believe dictatorship to smell like. Thanks for correcting me.
Mark
You are a piece of work – one misguided dude.
Blaming corporate greed on Clinton is a real stretch.
Privately owned banks were ordering their employees to sign up people for mortgages. Even people who had no jobs, or never in their lives made enough to pay them up. They then packed the mortgages into group securities and sold them off, knowing full well they were worthless. Insurance giants like AIG insured the securities with money they didn’t have. One big Madoff ponzi scheme. Their was no government involvement and oversight, and that was the problem.
Of course in your narrow mind, everything evil is is political and caused by democrats. Clinton’s balanced budgets were because of the republican congress but all Bush’s stupidity was Clinton’s fault. Hmmm.
PS. “I’m a great American” Hannity ain’t. His presidential hopefuls George Allen, Richard Santorum, Tom Delay, Mark Sanford were all duds, just like him, you, and all you right wing extremists..
Wow Norm, somebody’s angry. I would be too if I supported your guys. Take a nap and get over yourself.
Sorry Norm, but if you were referring to the banks greeds and collapse, that was all Bill Clinton and the democrats, and you know its all true. However, yes I agree, there is and always will be corporate greed, as there is greed whereever there is accumulated large amounts of money. Always has been, always will be. Its the way of man. Not defending it, I think it is wrong, and corporate greed cannot be blamed on politics, its the problem of man. The problem escalates though, when politicians start taking money from business and pass things to benefit them if the politician gets money from it, then weve got this current problem, that plagues both the democrats and republicans, that these career politicians have got to go, as they are all in bed with special interest groups, and do things to benefit them and themselves, not the people. But when it comes to what happened with all these bank collapses, yes Bill Clinton and his cronies are the direct cause of it, and you and I both know the Bush admin called for an investigation two years before this happened, but Barney Frank was the head of the oversight committee on this, and shot down any investigation saying it wasnt needed. Cut in anyway you want Norm, but the dems set this up, fleeced it, and protected it, then watched it collapse. How many millions in bonuses did Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick give out, and to whom. Yeah, thats what I thought. I rest my case.
Mark Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Mark
Russ, Sean and Glenn are the country’s biggest liars and they are hired to dictate to you and all others who are incapable of thinking for themselves. Them and those who hire them know that they can dictate to you what to do and say so as keep the conservative fiction alive and well in as many republicans as they can. Fortunately your ranks are down to a little over 20% of the voters and the country is finally realizing that they are spewing out nothing but lies and fiction but it stills works on you doesn’t it Mark but not 80% of us voters and that is why you are losing elections and will continue to unless you start thinking for yourself witch I doubt you are capable of based on your posts here. You certainly have the conservative talking points down but you do have trouble citing them in a manner that does not get them all jumbled up.
Obama is strictly seeking as much power as he can. And his stupid followers think they are going to benefit, but most of them will suffer greatly. Look already at all the trips Barrack and Michele take at the taxpayer’s expense. If those were Corporate officers the envious class would be raising all kinds of hell. But since they think he is one of them, they support him with their head in the sand.
Dave
The envious class? Some of these corporate (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) almost destroyed this country. Making loans that a fool would never consider, and pocketing mega millions. That should make us all envious. If it wasn’t for the Bush and Obama bailouts we would be back in the dark ages.
Norm,
I agree, but read of copy of Thomas Sowell’s “The Housing Boom and Bust”. They were being strongly encouraged by the government to lend to marginal borrowers. In fact, I heard just recently that the government is doing more of the same right now. I think also that excess money creation by the Federal Reserve contributed to the rising prices (inflation). I agree that there are a lot of crooked corporate officers, but the government is not immune from disreputable employees. And the government has the ability to force us to buy or do things we don’t want. I really am not sure what’s going on, but it seems like corporations are more likely to get away with ripping off their shareholders than ever before, in spite of the increasing size of government. No system is perfect, but I think that a free-enterprise system with a much smaller government in the role of watchdog would produce a lot more level playing field than we have now.
Let me give you an example from my own experience. We had women and blacks in our work groups long before equal opportunity laws. Then I noticed that it became much rarer over the years after all the protection. I think the companies were afraid to give blacks and women jobs (unless they were very highly qualified) because of the possible legal ramifications if they didn’t work out. And I believe I am experiencing a similar situation now at age 60. It has been very difficult for me to find a job, and I am highly educated. Of course the small sample size of my experience doesn’t prove anything.
I believe that if government got the hell out of business, there would be less discrimination, not more. The companies that operated in a bigoted fashion would fall in the free marketplace to those that were smart enough to hire the best workers regardless of race or sex or age. Nowadays its the companies with the most political savvy that triumph instead of the companies with the best products. And everyone (outside of government) would benefit from a much more productive country with fewer regulatory hurdles.
As the government grows ever larger there are fewer people to do real productive work. In fact, I call government “negatively productive” because they not only don’t produce desirable products for the people, but much of the time they make it harder for people to be happy by harassing them.
If it wasnt for Clinton, we wouldnt have needed the bank bailouts, right Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick and Barney Frank. Thanks Bill.
Yeah Norm, like all the loans that the banks were directed to give under Bill Clinton, to lend to people who know way in hell could pay it back, so they could buy a house and live the American dream. Only the government accepted the responsibility to pay for it, because they lent to people with no means to pay it back, then collapsed the banking system. Those are the bad loans I dont like.
u r in the dark ages. it was the dems running freddi and fanny that caused the melt down.
Norm….apparently some of you ARE in the dark ages and later stages of total denial as well! Who in the hell is spending all these trillions our great-grandchildren will still be paying back? Sooner or later, maybe you and your kind will finally get it that what they are blaming Bush for now has nothing whatsoever to do with Bush…it is now ALL Obama and his party’s agenda.
David Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Before Obama, Reagan and GW Bush, of my republican party, ran the 2 largest federal deficits since ww2. At least Reagan left the economy in decent shape, although in greater debt. There was a recession in 1990-91 (GWBush). Little Bush gave us all tax cuts and then started a war with a trillion dollar price tag, and initiated a horrible and expensive medicare drug package. Brilliant indeed. Then we had the meltdown, which WAS on Bush’s watch.
We, as a nation, and as individuals MUST stop living beyond our means. Our resources are limited. The middle class is shrinking.
Obama is trying to stimulate the economy, save companys and jobs and get a handle on healthcare. He has to do what the government has failed to do for far too many years.
Norm,
This isn’t for you, as you obviously feel you are going to be a recipient of the government largesse, so I don’t expect you to keep an open mind. But for anyone that does have an open mind, go to this website and view the video on Canadian Health Care:
http://www.pjtv.com/
Also, keep in mind that once the government becomes the provider of your health care, you can kiss goodbye your freedom of food choices and other pleasures of life that they deem unhealthy. All this while they are making the taxpayer pay the bill, because they don’t produce anything except more laws.
No, congress started the war, and the democratic congress escalated it. Much like Lyndon Johnson escalated Vietnam. They bitch about it, but they are the main causes of war.
Dave
Actually I, like Obama, have my health care under control.
You right wingers are so nasty and greedy that you can’t fathom anyone who cares about other people or the good of the country.
The only benefit, that I can expect is to see is my portion of insurance premiums stabilized, and less of the countries GDP squandered on corporate salieries.
As far as “food choices and other pleasures of life”, please tell me the source of this nonsense.
Norm,
First of all, I am not right-winger, I am Libertarian. I love freedom. And I am not religious, but I do have morals (unlike those who would steal other folks money through the government gang). You refer to me as nasty, yet you want to force your way on other people (yes, laws are force). You refer to me as greedy, yet you want to take other peoples money away to spend as you please (much greedier than people who want to keep their own money).
To answer your last question: helmet laws, seat belt laws, trans-fat laws, forced vaccinations, proposed taxes on soda pop. What do these all have in common? They could only succeed because the voters “don’t want to have to pay for someone else’s mistakes” (I’ve been told that throughout my life when trying to defend people’s liberty).
Give me a break, Norm; if you want to keep your head in the sand, fine, but don’t ridicule me because I don’t imitate you. Why are you hanging around a blog that advocate’s freedom when you don’t have a clue what it is?
Norm,
I don’t believe name-calling wins a debate, but since you do, I will debate on your level.
You can have the last word, as I see no sense in trying to educate a meat-head.
Dave
Read your reply July 17th, 2009 at 7:50 pm. “stupid followers” sure sounds like name calling.
I also believe in freedom. But we live (or should live) in a civilized society. When I was a kid we used to do say “it’s a free country” to cover any, and all, acts which were beneficial only to our personal satisfaction. With freedom comes responsibility and that often means compromise and sacrifice for the common good.
Taxes are taxing for sure. Without a government of laws, we would be back in the wild west. Without a military, we would have no freedoms. Freedom is not free.
Some laws are overly restrictive and should not exist. This is a democracy – let’s change them.
I visit this sight to because I have the FREEDOM to do so.
What a sore loser. I can see it in his snort.
How the (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) did I ever get on this stupid mailing list, anyway. The Repbulican’s are the sorest little cry babies I’ve ever seen. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
I agree with everyone above except John. Hit the unsubscribe button, buddy. Or do you prefer to pout?
Chip Wood
This other “John” is just your typical whiner who will do nothing to change. All he wants is his piece of the handout pie. What’s in it for him, that’s all he cares about. He’s a Fool and is easily hiding behind a blog posting ridiculous comments with no meaning. He’s one of them “bully’s” I mentioned in MY post below.
Chip Wood Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I think you like Cheney wants to throw out those who disagree with you because it is the only way you know how to deal with opposing views as you have no intelligent response to them
Smiley…When it comes to intelligence I would be happy to put mine up against yours anytime. Hmmm…do you need a teleprompter too in order to simulate intelligence?
Who are the Cry Babies? I don’t remember Bush crying about the Clinto-Gore recession that he inherited. I don’t remember Reagan crying about the 15% unemployment and 20%+ interest rates he inherited from the peanut moron. Everything, and I mean everything, bad is blamed on Bush. I am surprised that he hasn’t been identified as the “fuzzy figure on the grassy knoll”. For those of you not old enough to remember this “fuzzy figure”, he was suspected by some to be part of a conspiracy to kill Kennedy.
Did you here the news Monday? “Al Gore plotted to cause 911″ We’ve gott’em!
Are you for real?!!! Where did you see or read this?
dan irwin Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:39 am
FOX news, no doubt!!!
How would you know Smiley,or is it Smally, you would never listen to Fox News would you? Maybe there is hope.
Fox is the only news on.
CNN and the 3 are controlled by big business -it’s slanted, statis que, gossip
MSN is formated in the style of opinion, which sucks – just the news please!
PBS provides a glimps, but still focuses on off beat in depth stuff
Democracy Now, well America might not be ready for that yet…?
Wally Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
How would you know Smiley,or is it Smally, you would never listen to Fox News would you? Maybe there is hope.
I listen to them all including FOX, read several newspapers, the internet and as many other sources to get all sides, HOW ABOUT YOU, hell I even listen to Rush, Hannity, Beck and others but than that is entertainment and not news but it gives me my laugh for the day and keeps me abreast of their foolishness.
Dana
Except for the Kennedy assination, I do blame Bush/Cheney for the mess we are in.
And I certainly remember, and rightfully so, many tears over Carter from the right..
Clinton ran balanced budgets for several years and was a better pres. than Bush. He was a little sleezy but at least he had a brain.
You guys always forget the facts. Congress spends the money, not the President. Clinton served during a period when the Republicans controlled the spending. That’s is why there was a surplus (on paper only) budget. Of couse under Bush the Republicans became “Democrat Lite” and blew on the money away. The big fall was Bush’s last two years when the Dems were in control of the money.
Sorry you idiot but it was the Liberal Congressmen/women that caused it, handing out all these handouts (Programs to freeloaders) for their votes. Bush did a terrific job while in office, protected your sorry liberal arses. President Bush was “Magnificient”. God help us during the next 4 years as Hussein “Obama” will probably give the terrorist the Blue print to wipe us out. It is obvious him and his darling wife is making practice runs with Air Force one so they can get out in time; as they have a place to jet of to “KENYA”, his place of birth.
Yeah, he smoked dope and didnt inhale, and he did not have sexual relations with that woman he had sexual relations with. He defiled the office of president, let the enemy punch us in the nose over and over again, cut our military in half and our intelligence in thirds, and you say he has a brain. Really? And he married Hillary – and he has a brain. Ha Ha Ha. Your a comedian.
Clinton didnt balance the budget. Smoke and mirrors. He cut the military and intelligence in half, and left us vulnerable. We got punched, slapped and bombed again and again. He collapese the banks, and he did not balance the budget. He lied as do all dems. Remember, he did not inhale, and he did not have sexual relations with that woman. Right.
John, you are aptly named.
You can always unsubscribe. Look at the bottom of the page and click on unsubscribe. We need to be more serious about what is going on in this country if for no other reason than our children. I’m sure your parents tried to make this a better place for you than what they had. The only people I see whining are the people who just don’t care about their country.
You notice how they always have to use language like that?
So,
Take your name off the list.
It would make me happy.
Just because you like Barry Soetoro, or Barrack Obama, or whomever he is, doesnt mean I have to. Im an American, and really, I would just expect the law to be adherred to by our top politicians, and make sure the president is a lawful citizen, and since they cant do that, I choose not to support them. That and the fact that he hasnt a clue what he is doing, has caused unemployment to go to 10 percent, has weakened us in our enemies eyes, has kissed our enemies ass and apologized for us being a successful nation, has spent more in less than 10 months that the previous admin spent in 8 years, and he and his ilk bitched about that during election time. All he can do is point the finger at others. The only plan Ive seen him exhibit, is to give our hard earned money to GM and the UAW, who have over and over proven they dont know how to properly run a business. No, this guy and his ilk, including wankers like Stuart Smalley got no business governing anything. None at all.
Mark
Your right you do not have to like him, but he is your president and by showing him respect you show respect for the office as an institution, we should all do that who ever he is but you just keep cutting this man down. You say he does not have a clue what he is doing, as I read you all over this site I’m totally sure you have no clue what he is doing so who can give any creditably to what you say.
Smilee… Respecting the office of President is one thing; respecting the man is another. I don’t like Barry. He is showing his agenda and a lot of Democrats are seeing him for what he really is. His distain for America is disturbing. I only hope and pray, which I do for all our leaders, including Barry, that common sense will return. That they are seeking the help of God to make decisions that affect so many. The presidency is huge. Barry said when campaigning that he would seek the counsel of his wife Michelle. Wow! I sure don’t take a lot of comfort in that! This is the woman who has never been proud of her country until her husband became popular. Now that she is the first lady, do you think she is happy and grateful to be an American, not to mention proud?
He may be president but as soon as he starts paying a little more respect to the Constitution of this once great country, I will think more about respect back to him.
Your right I do not have to like the guy, nor the anti american things he is doing. However, I do pray for the guy and his admin. Question is, did any of you lefties ever say a prayer for good things to happen for Bush and his admin. Id be surprised. I would like good things to come from this guy, because it would be good for all of us. I just dont see how, not directly because of him, but because of the direction of pacifism and appeasement this party is on. Facts say pacifism and appeasement are a direct road to defeat. You just dont win with that approach, never have, and I dont think one ever will. In this world, someone is always waiting to take advantage, and if someone is going to be a pacifist and an appeaser, they are going to be the one getting taken advantage of. Thats just how it is. I didnt make it up, and I didnt write the rule on this, thats how it is.
But I do know what he is doing. He is a democrat. They havent changed their playbook for 40 years. So predictable. Appease the enemy, raise taxes, give handouts, expand government, give more handouts, keep the poor dependant on the government, give more handouts. Same old libs.
Mark
July 20th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Then there’s GW Bush.
His daddy paid him into Yale. He was a great cheerleader and distinguished member of the Skull and Bones society (rich boy club) and earned a wapping BA degree. He went on to Harvard, thanks to dad, and got a MBA. That’s probably the best anything he ever did. But it wasn’t a law degree, and his grades were not great. He also had a little drinking problem, but good old dad was there for him. Just for fun, dad got him into the Texas ANG, as an officer and got him to pilot training. The cost to train one jet pilot (T-45 line) is $1,439,754 as reported by a study by the UCLA School of Law. It’s a little unclear how he ended his military career, but he saw no active duty. After a few failures, he “got religion”. Most sinners do. From then on he prayed his way along. When all else fails pray.
After 911, George W saw an opportunity to help his Dad. Saddam Hussein had always ridiculed George HW, and even put his picture on a hotel doormat.
George junior really showed Saddam a thing or two. Unfortunately, It has cost the country over 4000 fine young men and women dead, untold wounded, and nearly a trillion taxpayer dollars so far. And Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
Boy, am I glad his dad paid for his education, so that us tax payers didnt get stuck paying for it like we did Barrack Obama’s. And as far as our security goes, Bin Laden, Saddam, Ahmindajab, whatever his name is, they are all the same guy. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. They all want us dead, and you want to apologize to them, go ahead you pacifist. Pacifism always, and I mean always, leads to defeat. Im a man who is glad Bush was a man and showed them that enough is enough. Unfortunately, we have another pacifist in there who is busy kissing butt and being afraid, all rolled up the fetal position, while these terrorist are laughing their arse’s off planning their next bombing. Thank God Bush took the precautions he did, and I fully believe we will be safe through Obama’s four years because of it. However, the dems will cut back and undo these security precautions, and we will get hit probably the first or second year into the next election, which everyone knows after this fiasco, that it wont be another libtard democrat. So take your tranquilizer, and sit by the campfire with bin laden and sing kum ba ya, and tell him how so so sorry you are that we are such a successful nation. Loser.
Bush’s dad payed for his schooling and an Islamic Supremacist paid for Obama’s education! Does anyone else have a problem with that? Check out Dr. Khalid alMansour.
Mark,
Don’t let these greedy liberals get you worked up. You are not going to change their minds because they are in denial of their OPM habit. It amazes me that they work so hard to take other people’s money away forcibly, when they could earn that money the ligitimate way instead without much more effort.
gia Reply:
There are no unanswered questions except in the minds of seriously demented, right wing
conspiracy theorists. Obama paid for his education through student loans and scholarships.
End of story.
Mark Reply:
August 7th, 2009 at 8:25 am
No, congress started the war, and the democratic congress escalated it. Much like Lyndon Johnson escalated Vietnam. They (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) about it, but they are the main causes of war.
Friday, October 11, 2002 Posted: 12:35 PM EDT
WASHINGTON (CNN) — In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.
Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133.
The president praised the congressional action, declaring “America speaks with one voice.”
The Senate vote sharply divided Democrats, with 29 voting for the measure and 21 against. All Republicans except Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island voted for passage. In the House, six Republicans — Ron Paul of Texas; Connie Morella of Maryland; Jim Leach of Iowa; Amo Houghton of New York; John Hostettler of Indiana; and John Duncan of Tennessee — joined 126 Democrats in voting against the resolution.
Bush lied and congress bought it. But congress only authorized Bush to do his thing if necessary.
That is good, you don’t belong on this list because you can’t think for yourself and see what is in front of your own eyes. Go to a the kooks on the left I am sure you will be much happier there swallowing their (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)!!!
Nothing intelliget to say?…just pour yourself another big bowl of stupid and spout off again tomorrow!
my reply was to #6 john……just so nobody else takes offense……
you are an idiot. cant you see whats going on? socialist? how about communist? HNIC has appointed two avowed commies to his ever growing list of czars (get the hint, bubba?….czars…)
And guys like Norm and Smilee blindly follow, and say that Im ignorant. Imagine that. They dont know this guy from Adam, yet they blindly follow. Amazing stuff right there, but Im ignorant by their standards. Now thats some funny stuff, I dont care who you are.
You are ignorant by anyone’s standard, its a fact, We are thinking people and know why we follow, following blind is a Conservative trait how could you possible confuse us with them.
So then Smilee, hows this changing working out, not for you, but for “our” country? Not so well, even according to the left wing media. Not well at all. 2010, half of them go, 2012, the rest are out. Enjoy this “change” while you can, because its on its way out of town.
John,
Please do take your name off the mailing list. I am plenty tired of you liberals contaminating the board with your poison. This is a board about freedom. The only freedom you liberals understand is the freedom to take other people’s money. You are thieves, plain and simple.
Freedom for only those you approve of, you sure have no respect for the freedom of speech for what you call liberals, we understand you are prejudiced, its too bad you are unaware you are, but being conservative on this board equates to being in a state of denial, shout load enough to drown out everyone they do not like and part of the problem with that is they cannot hear them over their own shouting and if that does not work try and kick them off, you know like Cheney tried to do to Powell. Is it any wonder the republican party is in such a sorry mess with people like this in it.
Cheney? You just described Hillary Clinton to the T.
Mark
more of your silly jibber jabber, again not on topic, are you saying you see these two as being the same. For starters he is male and she female, can you even tell the difference in that
John… You signed on to receive this e mail blog just like everybody else did. You do not have to read it; you can use your delete key. Or, you can unsubscribe. I think you can do it. It’s at the bottom. You move your mouse to get your browser on top of unsubscribe and click! Maybe your blood pressure will go down and things will be better for you in your fantasy world.
Do us all a favor boy, remove yourself, or open your mouth and prove your a jerk.
Mark
You have convinced me you are the most simple minded person on this site, and have already on many occasions opened your mouth and proven it but I will still respect your freedom of speech and not ask you to leave. I’m just not that way
This wasnt directed at you Smilee, it was to the John who was complaining about how his name got on this list. Answer is simple, if he doesnt like it, remove himself. Yes, it is quite simple, and if that makes me simple minded so be it. I am a simple man, that is true. But this wasnt for you Smilee, you enjoy this banter as much as the next guy. But John was crying for release, so he needs to release himself by removing himself. That is simple.
What a mess of rubbish! Your sour grape articles hurt this country far more than anything any politicians could possibly do. If you’re so damned smart, why don’t you come up with constructive suggestions, run for a constructive position in our government, or do something positive for the good of the country? When I hear the idiotic mouthings of you and your peers, it makes me ashamed of my years in the Pacific during WWII.
Thanks for the intelligent and specific rebuttal, Brad. Easier to shout and hit “send” than debate, isn’t it?
Chip Wood
The way I see it is , the reason Obama won is because the American people were fed up with the way this country has been going over the last few decades and wanted change. Well they got change alright.America is being flushed down the toilet.
The Republicans are just as bad as the Democrates.
Doyle,
I agree with you 100%. Soon, we will be facing hyper-inflation and down the road, not as far down the road as one might think, we will no longer be a world power. We will be a third world nation.
Mark my words. To answer some of you, I AM writing to Osama…er…Obama about it.
Jim
Doyle Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
The toilet was flushing when he took office!!!
That is too true.
Doyle,
The problem is that the liberal media always supports the most liberal candidates, be they Democrat or Republican. Those of us who love individual liberty need to spread the word on this to everyone we know. The voters need to ignore the endorsements of the media and start electing the right people.
What the Democrat dupes don’t understand is that very rich people control the media, and they are going to promote whatever gives them more money or power. Rich people don’t want competition, so they champion lots of regulation which stifles small business as they can’t afford the extra staff needed to comply with all the regulations.
Wake up Democrat voters! You are being used. The magicians are performing sleight of hand to get your support. There are a lot of good Democrats out there who just aren’t getting truthful information. Read alternative magazines, such as Reason, or Newsmax, or Forbes. Get a clue!
Actually, the Americans wanted change, because the TV kept telling them change change change for 2 years. Its called propaganda, and it is very effective. Its like advertising, very powerful. Case in fact, Miller Lite. Now I dont know if your a beer drinker, but is the worst tasting stuff ever called beer. I worked at a brewery for 8 years, and told our brewmaster that this crap tasted like I poured a half a glass of beer, and filled it up with water. He was a brewmaster at Miller for 13 years. His reply was “Duh, thats how they make it”. They brew a half kettle and fill it up with water. But since the TV has all these funny commercials, and tell’s us how good it is, generations grow up hearing about it, and when they are old enough to drink, they buy it, because they have been told its good for so long. Yeech, nasty tasting stuff. Such is the democrat propaganda machine on the national networks. They told you all how bad Bush was, how bad this war was, just lie after lie after lie, and people bought into it. Now look what we are stuck with. An inferior product that is leaving a bad taste in our mouths again and again and again. Maybe we should get educated as to what is really happening, who the candidates really are, and what they stand for, rather than listen to what the square brain sucker in our living rooms tell us. That would be refreshing for a change.
Brad Caswell on July 17th, 2009 at 10:45 am:
YOUR A GREAT AMERICAN
Nice to meet a man on here that knows how to think.
Smilee, that wasnt a think. That was a finger point. Why is someone who see’s things different than you, not allowed their opinion? Brad is an angry man, and thats it.
MARK
You sure do not have any problem expressing your opinions here or anywhere else nor do I see anyone else here not allowed too. That is one thing alot of you conservatives have in common is shooting off you mouths then turn around after someone points out the error of your ways and claim to not be allowed to speak your mind. Hard to figure you guys out, can you ever make a believable statement. Brad asked a lot of questions and not one response addressed them you all just shot your mouths off. Too bad you can’t carry on an intelligent dialogue.
Brad is an angry old man (served in the pacific in WWII). If he is still so left-wing being that old, he must be a real dope! And if there is one thing that I find more obnoxious than a young liberal it’s an old liberal! Despite that, I thank Brad for his service.
Thanks for proving my case in point. I speak my opinion, and you lambast me. You accuse me of shooting off my mouth, you state that I never make a believable statement, and say I cant carry on an intelligent dialogue, all because my opinion is different that yours. Your an angry left wing liberal pacifist appeaser, who wants government hand outs right and left so that I can go to work everyday and pay for your medical bills. You voted for Barrack Obama and Stuart Smalley, I mean Al Franken (same guy), so you my friend, dont need medicine, you need a psychiatrist, because your head needs examined. Now crawl back into the fetal position since it is obvious we cant have an intelligent conversation, because you are lacking the intelligence it takes to have one with me.
Mark Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 9:23 am
You have no point so it can not be proven or disproved, Angry, no I pity you. You speak your opinion and I call attention to the error of your ways, you can’t deal with that truth so you strike back in anger and make all kinds of dumb statements that make no sense. I gave up a long time trying to have a conversation with you as that’s not possible as long as you are in denial and think you have intelligence when you do not. Like I said before your mixed up posts are unbelievable and that is how it is very obvious that your dumber that dumb.
Yeah but Obama is driving it all the way into the sewer!!
Brad,
and everything you supposedly fought for being lost right under your turned up nose. What did you fight for if it wasn’t Freedom, Fairness, Truth or Liberty?
John A
You cannot even be respectful to our veterans. He fought for you so you could shoot your big mouth off and I can understand his feelings when her hears from the likes of you, any wonder why it raise questions is his mind. SHAME ON YOU!!!!!
I am grateful for all of our guys, including myself who served and fought for this country. However, it doesnt mean one gets a free pass when they uneducatedly shoot off their mouths. Sorry, no free passes for being a jerk.
But then there are veterans like John Kerry, that shot himself in the ass and got a purple heart, and then came back here and threw all his buddies under the bus. Now that is an ungrateful (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) if I ever saw one.
Mark
More of your silly jibber jabber, can you never stay on topic
Brad, thank you for serving in WWII. We all owe you a great debt of gratitude sir..
Why dont you come up with something, instead of sitting there pointing the finger at others? Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot, thats what you guys on the left do, EVERYTIME. No one is allowed to have a thought or opinion, except you guys. How damn silly of me. Sorry.
Dear Mr. President Please find below my
suggestion for fixing America’s economy Instead of giving
billions of dollars to companies that will squander the money on lavish parties
and unearned bonuses, use the following plan You can call it the
Patriotic Retirement Plan There are about 40 million people over
50 in the work force. Pay them $2 million apiece severance for early retirement
with the following stipulations
1) They MUST retire or start a new business. Forty
million plus new job openings – Unemployment fixed
2) They MUST buy a new
American CAR. Forty million cars ordered – Auto Industry fixed
3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage – Housing Crisis
Fixed. It can’t get any easier than that If more
money is needed, have all members of Congress and their cronies pay their
taxes..
The economy could be fixed for under 100 million dollars….and they have already spent how much with no results?Who’s interests are our elected officials looking after?…Certainly not ours.
‘They say, “The road to ruin is paved with good intentions.” and we keep making potholes.’
YOUR SO WRIGHT
Average Joe… It will never happen. It is simple, not full of pork, and not long enough. If Congress got something that easy to vote on they would have time to read it. And, it makes too much sense! You must remember we are not dealing with an administration that uses common sense. They want to keep things complicated; it keeps the ‘little people’ from knowing what is really going on.
OMG, I can’t believe you guys buy the (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) that there are a fixed number of jobs in the economy. The number of jobs is limited only by our ingenuity. And people are amazingly ingenious when unhampered by limitless regulations.
In fact, when you pull productive people out of an economy, there is less produced. When there is less produced, prices go up. We all get lower standards of living. After-tax money was taken out of the Social Security recipients hands and put into the hands of a bunch of politicians who just wasted a large portion of that money. And then to add insult to injury, if they die early, their heirs don’t even get the remainder. A large part of the hard work I did over my lifetime was done with the mindset of making my children’s lives easier than mine was.
As we take more and more incentives to produce away from people, then they will produce less. As they produce less, we all have less. That’s why Socialism fails wherever it is taken to extreme. If you really want to benefit in the future, taking their money away is not the answer. That will work only one time. Then they will join the class of the unproductive, and we will all lose. What we need to concentrate on is how do we encourage people to be productive. There is no doubt in my mind, that can best be achieved by getting the government out of business decisions.
LOL, now I realize why you attacked me Average. And I should have a “bowl of stupid”?
2 million X 40 million is 80 trillion dollars. Sure, we should increase the National Debt by 80 trillion dollars and in doing so take 40 million producers out of the workforce. Oh yeah, that would be great for the economy! You are aptly named.
DaveH,
Have another bowl!
I’m not sure where you went to school sir, but where I come from 2 million X 40 million people equals……..80,000,000…that is…..80 million…..maybe you already had that extra bowl…open mouth…switch feet?…A simple calculator can help you with this problem…they are cheap and actually work….counting on your fingers does not seem to be your fortay…or was it a abbacab?…The problem is simple…2X40=80..add your zeros, 000,000…wow…80 million…maroon (mispelled on purpose…just for you)
DaveH,
To make it even more simple for you to understand, If you give 40 million people 1 million dollars each….would that not be 40 million dollars?….So if you double that amount, would it not equal 80 million dollars?
DaveH,
OK, I’ll be the first to admit that I was wrong sir. Please except my appologies and I retract the last two statements. Any of us can have a brain fart…I did, but at least I am big enough to admit it.
I just read your blog today. Even though you already appoligized I’d like you to know that you were correct and Average Joe is woefully mistaken.
2 X 40 million is indeed 80 million but 2 “million” X 40 million is indeed 80 trillion.
Bonnie,
That was Joe that apologized, and I think he was very noble for doing that. I have a 4 year Math degree. I know I was right, but thank you for your support. Those big numbers are definitely confusing and I understand anyone having trouble grasping them.
Thank you Joe. I consider your apology to be very classy, and I’m not being sarcastic.
You are welcome sir. I usually pride myself on doing my reasearch and making sure I have my ducks in a row, but on occassion I do let my guard down and say or do something stupid (this was one of those times)….BTW…..I didn’t care much for that bowl I just ate…lol….I think it was mixed with a lot of crow..and both feet……..
No, it is the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
It is called paraphrasing…and because of that, I can say it any way I choose…because it is not a exact quote from someone else. Besides, not everyone believes in hell or heaven for that matter.Please do not respond by telling me about religion, I have my veiws and you have yours (that is not saying that I do not believe or that you do not believe, just a statement of fact, not everyone believes).Since I really didn’t want to get into religion here, I chose to say it the way I did.If I choose to quote someone, I will do so and give them credit for thier quote.
” He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her”. John 8:7
That would be a quote. It is from the American King James version of the Bible.
Dang Average Joe, dont be so sensitive. I was just saying it the way I always heard it said, Ive never heard it said your way, but thats Ok, Im fine with it, but I dont need an angry lecture. Peace out dude.
Mark Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 9:25 am
No, it is the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Someone told me they seen you driving on that road, he waved at you but you ignored him.
Thanks Smilee, and it was you I waved at, while you were working on the paving crew, misleading the travelers to the left. Your so mean.
Your wrong, there is no way in hell you have the intelligence to recognize a democrat when you see one as you have no idea what one looks like they are only in your imagination and look as you want them to
To Smilee, you are correct in part. I do not know what a democrat looks like. But I sure do know them by their words and deeds, and its not a good thing. Well, not all, but for sure those in power. Bad guys for the US enonomy, for the US Security, and for the US future. Bad guys.
As a matter of fact I was talking with family just this morning about trying to run for office in an attempt to put some reality back into politics!!!!
Then he would fit right in with the dems…if you can’t intelligently debate the issues, resort to name calling.
As a Minnesotan who has read both courts findings, opinions and orders (and followed this story daily) that totally refutes all of Chip Wood’s opinions in this article and say nothing more to me but that his intent is nothing more than to distort the facts of what really happened in MN. Another example of conservative fiction that is becoming less credible in this country every day. If you have an open mind I challenge you to read the courts findings, opinions and orders, they are on line, just Google it. Most experts that have looked at it disagree with this man opinions. We do not deny it was a dirty campaign but the campaigns do not conduct our elections nor do Accorn (they only register voters and have no influence on how anyone votes, we still do it privately in a voting booth after the Secretary of State’s office has verified the voters validity, they have been accused of registration fraud not voter fraud but conservatives have a lot of trouble understanding this difference, in MN no one has been charged) so this has nothing what so ever to do with the election results and reasonable and honest people know and understand this.
If no one has been charged in Minnesota, it is because those who made sure this election was bought and paid for made sure they had their ducks in a row! Votes that went for that IDIOT Franken has LESS credibility and verifiability than mine, which went for Coleman! I read the courts findings and totally disagree with them. How the courts could have come to their decision relying on a Secretary of State who is a known Democratic strategist and who bases his decisions on what is best for the party and not the people of the State proves bias. Since dissenting voices were removed from the proceedings, nothing about this entire election was right or good for the country! The odds were stacked against the voters of Minnesota from the start and no amount of “open minds” will change the facts!
mrbenz7 Reply: July 17th, 2009 at 11:24 am
So, you claim to have read the the opinions, then how is it you missed the fact that it had nothing to do with the Secretary of State, the court held a trial that he had no part in except as a witness and the court ruled on the recount of which he was only one person of five and the only democrat on the panel and all agreed on this count including the republicans on it, the trial which took about five weeks and it results by the three judge panel unanimously found the recount to be legally accurate and then Coleman appealed to the MN Supreme Court that found the lower courts findings totally correct and affirmed it totally. If you cannot understand these court documents and you think it was a review of the Secretary of State, and it was not, your not being able to agree with it appears to be based on a biased approach rather than one looking to understand the reality of it and approaching it with a open and unbiased mind which these judges did. You appear to be a sore loser and have to hit below the belt to express yourself. Five on the recount board, three judges held the trial and five supreme court judges reviewed it, that is 13 people total and all thirteen came to the same conclusion that Franken won and only two of these persons are known to democrats, two unknown and the rest of other parties. If you want to make a argument against it you would be well advised to use facts instead of just off the cuff statements that sure appear to make you look biased.
Smilee, I need to know right now, and please tell the truth. Did you vote for Al Franken?
Mark Reply: July 17th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
That is irrelevant to my post, you do not need to know that. My post is about what happened in the recount and court actions and has nothing to do with who I voted for.
this is my first contribution to any forum.i have been paying attention to politics social affairs etc for 35 40 years and have remained conservative but have felt the pressure from my family and friends to be a liberal because it is hip ,cool intelligent.compassionate ,open minded why would you be any other way.alot of peer pressure..have many close friends that are in the upper eshilon of art and science.there is a distinction that occurred to me an epipheny of sorts..is it that the college professors and artists have the perpensity to be left wing because they can’t look the gift horse in the mouth(state funding) and society grants credibility to the higher eshilon with out thinking of the bias regarding the incentive to fund themselves to an almost pathological degree??hope this makes scents to a few.keep up the good fight ..
you are right, follow the money. has a poor liberal ever given you $10.00 or does he just keep expecting the government to take it from you and give it to him?
Just how many dead people can vote ,Twice)
Are you so ignorant as to really believe dead people can actually vote?????
I live in Mississippi, and the dead have voted. It is a proven fact.
What proof, you saying so does not make it so, if it is proven lets see the facts. I suppose you also saw them get up out of the grave and go to the polls too. Did they dig up themselves or did you do it for them?? In MN we do not let dead people vote its against the law.
Come on Smilee, you are smarter than that. Ive read some of your posts. You know as well as I do, that JFK beat Nixon in one of the closest, if not the closest election ever, because of several thousands of votes from dead people in Chicago. Apparently they do vote, and some often. And this isnt the only time this has been documented. But you know, because of all the major networks being democratic mouthpieces, you dont get this spewed out all over like it should be. Man oh man, had a republican or anyone else done this, Holy cow, it would have been all over. But Kennedy was a democrat, and a filthy rich democrat, with a very dangerous Joe Kennedy and cronies of his around, and people would have ended up dead. So yes, dead people do vote. And apparantly so do illegal aliens.
the Democrats must think so. They keep on registering them>
Not only can dead people vote, but strangely , they all vote Democrat. I guess that’s due to the fact that their brains have disintegrated.
Lou,
LOL, great post!
I think you should look into just how many voter-registation cards signed that acorn turned in were dead people.
Democrats are dead people, they’re called zombies.
Mark Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Ask a stupid question and you will get a stupid answer
Smilee,
You remind me of my sister. My older brother had wrangled (through coercion) the executorship of my mother’s estate, and then he proved to be quite a thief and a liar in the years prior to my mother’s passing. I asked my sister to help me prove to a judge that he was not to be trusted. She said “I will side with whoever gets me the money the quickest!”.
Wow, such morality.
DaveH Reply: July 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Like I said, “Ask a stupid question and you will get a stupid answer” certainly applys to yours.
Research your history pal. You tell me your educated. Then research it. Thousands of dead people registered in Chicago and voted for John F. Kennedy when he narrowly beat Nixon. Its a fact of history. His dad Joe was one of the most crookedest, if that is a word, bastards to ever walk the face of the earth. Ever heard of “The sins of the fathers shall be revisited on to the third generation”. Any wonders as to what has happened to all the Kennedy’s? Could it just be back luck? No, I dont think so. My Father in Heaven has written it differently, and the proof is in the pudding.
Mark
Just some more of your silly jibber jabber, get a life man
If that was true than why did Acorn have to pay people to register? Why did they put dead people on the rosters? Why did they chose people who didn’t even know who the candidates were? These last elections were so dirty that they still stink.
Patricia Henson Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:33 am
The MN senate election was the most closely reviewed election in the country last year and no one who was involved with these reviews including courts found one iota of evidence of what you allege, at least not here in MN and how do you know what any voters knows about the candidates or who they were, do you personally know all these Acorn recruits??? Further the law does not require you to know who the candidates are to vote, how many judges on the ballot do you know???
Are these guys, the same guys that are so green they decided to up the bio-diesel in the school buses, where the stuff gels up at around 20 degrees, and all the school buses froze up so kids stood out in the cold for a bus that didnt show up. So then they built all these storage buildings that they heat 24 hours a day to keep the buses from freezing up, and leave the rest run all night that wont fit inside, so they dont freeze up? Probably the same guys. So now they burn fuel all day and night to heat these builidings, and run the other buses all night to keep them from freezing, so they dont have to use real diesel fuel because its bad for the environment? This my friends, is Minnesota politics. Look into this, its all true. And they elected first Jesse Ventura, and now Al Franken. Im staying out of that state forever. Scares me.
I know because Acorn is being prosecuted in 12 states for voter fraud. Don’t take my word for it check it out for yourself.
Smilee says: ‘the law does not require you to know who the candidates are to vote’
That pretty much sums it up. A virtual unknown screams I will bring hope and change. How many people do you think actually took the time to find out about Barry? Hope and change. Nobody knew what he meant, but it was a great slogan and got him elected. The biased media never asked him what he meant or how he was going to go about it. With a Democratic congress already in place, he knew he could do nearly anything he was told to do by the powers that be. He is not running this country. That is my belief and opinion.
Robin, Arcadia, IN Reply: July 18th, 2009 at 7:01 am
The law does not require you to know, does not mean they did not know. With Obama, after, almost two years, daily in the spotlight every one knew who he was, and those of us who paid attention knew him long before this, for all we know everyone could have taken the time find out about him. Most people knew what he meant and those that didn’t either didn’t pay attention or were incapable of understanding someone that intelligent and well educated and it may just have went right over their heads, probably were those who didn’t vote for him. Your belief and your opinion by your own words demonstrates quite clearly that they are based on mere assumptions and speculations. You know what they say people who ass/u/me they make an ass out of you and me, well, in this case you anyway. He is running the country, how he is running might drive may you nuts but that does not mean he is not running the country, after all he is yours and mine’s President, so get used to it.
Patricia Henson Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
I know because Acorn is being prosecuted in 12 states for voter fraud. Don’t take my word for it check it out for yourself.
I did check it out and ACCORN is only being prosecuted in Nevada and in the other states it is former accorn employees who ACCORN fired and not ACCORN itself that are being prosecuted. It is for registration fraud not voter fraud, ACCORN has nothing to do with elections or voting in any state that is the Secretary of State offices sole job. In MN every voter is verified by the Secretary of States office before their registration is approved and it is supposed to be that way in all states. You really should get you facts straight before you shoot your mouth off and if you do not understand the facts ( In this case the difference between registration fraud and voter fraud) your probably best off keeping it shut.
Acorn is a big part of the fraud the is perpetuated by the liberal cheats. They pick up the pimps,hookers,druggies,drunks,mentally ill and whatever else that they can find on the street. They show them how to vote, tell them who to vote for (ie:who will solve all of their problems) and deliver them to the voting station. These are the folks that tipped the scales and got Al Franken and Obama elected. Bush was a big disappointment, he never fought back against the lies that were spread about him, so pretty soon a majority of the people believed them. Then he starts the bailouts. He ended up looking like a clumsy fool.
Tom Reply: July 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
I heard recently that a bunch of you hard core conservations went under cover and got jobs with ACCORN so as to sabotage their organization to make them look like a bunch of crooks, seeing as you seem to know so much about them do you work for ACCORN!!! Careful with them hookers they may have STD’s!!
Hey smilee,thats funny. Sometimes these we bloggers can get a little too serious. lol
Anybody who will stand there and go to bat for ACORN, literally proves their stupidity before all, when they try to deny that these cats are democrats, and do all they can to benefit the democrats, whether it be legal or not. Ignorance is not bliss. And the ACLU represents a good strong moral America too. Not.
ACORN registers voters who will vote democrat and only democrat, so dont be spreading your lies here. I know this is true, you know this is true, and God knows this is true. What a stinking lie you put out there saying otherwise. ACORN is a left wing liberal pacifist appeasing arm of the democrat party, whose only interest is to register more people to vote democrat, and to disinfranchise those who would vote republican. That is the truth of the matter, but I know, your afraid of the truth.
Mark
You wrote “..whose only interest is to register more people to vote democrat, and to disinfranchise those who would vote republican”
*Just how does a person who votes democrat disfranchise republicans, Wow how ignorant you are, also you claim to know how these people vote when in fact you have not a clue how anyone in the voting booth votes unless they tell you, and I just do not believe you associate with acorn registered individuals so I doubt you have a clue, in fact none of us knows for sure how anyone voted except themselves, By your stupid statements and claims to know what you can not possibly know you have identified who the real liar here is and we both know its Mark. What pisses you off is that ACCORN registers voters and you fear they will vote democrat and you would love nothing better than to disfranchise these people so as to increase the changes of republicans of winning and fear them voting is the reason you lost in 06 & 08 and you did lose these elections and this drives you nuts and you can’t seem to help yourself from telling these lies so you can convince your self of this fiction, when the real reason your candidates lost is because most of the voters wanted them too and you know you are are stuck with a bunch of losers weather you want to admit it or not. What you claim the truth is just your mindset of denial and of course they are all lies so there is no truth here for me to be afraid of. God knows but you do not know what he knows, I would bet he is shaking his head in disgust when you make these statements that are not possible for any human to know. Not too smart amindset for you to think you can read God’s mind.
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You produce for me one Republican Acorn registered to vote Republican, and Ill run through the state of Minnesota naked in the middle of winter when your bio-diesel buses are all froze up. Produce one, or shut your mouth, because your a liar Smilee, and your statement is a very dumb one to try to even convince anyone, that ACORN would register anyone to vote, except to vote liberal democrat. Its a fact and you know it, and just in case you dont, then man are you ignorant. Which doesnt mean stupid by the way, it means you just dont know. So you are either ignorant, or a liar. Question is, which is it. And I do know what God knows. He knows everything, and he knows I am writing the truth, and your a big liar. You have proven it.
You again show your stupidity and lack of factual knowledge. I do not know if they registered one republican any more that you know if they registered one democrat or how either voted, for your information we have a secret ballot in this country so no one can know how another voted. I had assumed you knew that but apparently you do not. But if I could I would not tell you as I care enough about my fellow man in MN and would want to spare them the embarrassment of you running naked in our state. Your are right God does know everything, he even knows how full of hatred you are, how you lie. You have only proven I am a liar in your own mind and that is because you are incapable of knowing the truth because you are in a state of denial but as you said God knows everything and he knows this too.
Oh, but I do know. They do not register people to vote Republican, and for you to deny that shows your left wing agenda. You are a big fat ugly liar if you can honestly sit there and insist that ACORN is not there to register voters for the democrat party, and the democrat party alone. If you cannot see that, and do not understand that, then sorry pal, you have no knowledge and understanding of any of this, and should bow out of the discussion. You know what they are about, but you want to hide it. Why? For what reason? You and I both know they are a unit of the democratic party. My God man, what you are saying, would be like me saying that Rush Limbaugh doesnt back the Republicans. Wouldnt you find that asinine, as do all of us when we hear you say that ACORN doesnt exist solely to register democrats. Come on man, get back to reality. How can you deny that? Denial, is not just a river.
Mark you say: “Denial, is not just a river.”
Now what the hell does this mean, typical of your idiotic jibber jabber. ACCORN is not allowed by law to ask how those they register will vote. This is just more conservative fiction, you know nothing man
Franken may have won the Senate, however, the United States hasn’t lost…yet!
The foot in the the mouth of this IDIOT will need to be
put there (by Little Al can do this himself),
pushed there (by the “Extreme Right Wing Activists” and
not let up (by We The People of These United States).
As much as I don’t like mud slinging, there is a time you have to “Punch that Bully in the Mouth”!! It is that time, We The People stand up to these Leftist Bullies who are doing everything to take away our freedoms and drive us into unsustainable debt.
If we don’t do something drastic this year and next and relentlessly pursue the devourer then we will lose everything those who have gone before us fought for.
RISE UP PEOPLE, BE NOT DECEIVED.
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!
Make the calls to your Senators and Representatives…. IT IS WORKING. We must persist.
I changed my name to John “A” to distiguish from the other John using curse words above. This is not the same John. My comment started with “Franken my have won. . . “. I see this other John is a little emotional about his taxes too.
John,
If I remember correctly the budget was balanced for the first time in the past three decades under a democratic president, and the country had a surplus when Bush took office. It was only during the 8 years of so-called conservative rule that our country was driven into sky high deficits. Now, I’m no party pusher because I think our dual-party system of governance is corrupt and broken no matter what your affiliation, but if you’re going to post something, check your facts buddy.
Kevin D
I also watched C-SPAN at that time and saw congress spending moneu like a drunken sailor on a week end liberty. T only Senator who had any scense was Orin Hatch. Who said that the surpluses will not last BUT these increasas in social spending will last forever. Then what?
Since when did a trillion dollar war in Iraq become known as social spending these republicans at this time cut social spending, borrowed money to fight a war in Iraq that should not have been fought and give the top five percent of the citizens a tax break which they also borrowed to finance so they now pay a lower percent tax rate than anyone else. When he came into office he was operating on Clinton’s final budget which had a surplus as Kevin D said, Bush scuttled that in his first budget and by time he got to his last he had managed to have accumulated the biggest budget and debt in our history to say nothing of leaving the economy in the tank and spinning down ward, six of his years had republicans controlling congress and the last two years the senate Democrats controlled by one and under the senate filibuster rules this gave in effect 100 % blocking power to the republicans and they used it and set a record for that. Congress in effect made this 8 years period under total republican rule, That’s why we are in this mess today, time will tell if either party can turn it around but as long as all congress can do if fight do not hold your breathe.
The budget was not balanced. It was just a paper trick. You were deceived by the liberals in charge. There were no surpluses, no matter what Clinton and the news media told you. The last time the budget was balanced you were not even a twinkle in anybody’s eye yet.
Arthur Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Were where you, LET ME SET YOU STRAIGHT. even the republicans bragged about it being a surplus and a balanced budget at this time, in fact they took credit for forcing Clinton to do so, and it was passed by a republican congress as a compromise with Clinton at his insistence. THAT’S WHAT REALLY HAPPENED Its funny how so many people here without knowing what they are talking about blame the democrats or Obama for everything even when the facts say other wise.
As long as this country has a deficit, there is no surplus. As far as I know, the deficit was alive and well under Clinton. Saying that this country had a surplus after Clinton is like saying, “Well, I know I’ve got this stack of bills, but hey, I have a few dollars left over from my paycheck, so I have a surplus to spend on something I want.” I don’t believe there was a surplus, no matter who says it’s so.
By the way, to all those people who love to bash Bush and blame him for EVERYTHING under the sun and moon … you just wait. One day, his name will be vindicated, and you will learn that he was right. For all of you who are thinking, “This lady is crazy,” one day in the future you will remember this post.
Arthur, you are absolutely correct in your reply.
Also, with Clinton’s smoke and mirrors tricks, and his lying press of ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN and MSNBC, they say what the dems tell them to say. How much money would you say Bill Clinton had to play with, when he cut our military in half and left it in a crippled state, and cut our intelligence in half, to where the terrorist came into this country and milled about freely and we didnt know it, which directly led to 9-11. How many billions of dollars did Clinton have to play with, to show having a surplus. Hell man, Ive never been a politician, but let me cut the military and intelligence community in half, and I could balance the stinking budget. But Id rather not. I want a strong military and good intelligence to catch these guys. Clinton didnt care, and look at all the bombings that happened against us under his command. Bill Clinton, the left wings hero, was the most damning man ever to sit in the White House. We will be paying for the crap he did for years to come. He was a (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT).
Arthur, I have read your comments.
First Off, I am a Disabled Desert Storm Veteran, and like many of my fellow servicemembers, we were highly concerned that Bush Jr, would get us into a lot of trouble with Iraq, His Father, who I served Under, Knew what would happen if we were to chase Saddam back to Bagdad, It’s too bad that Jr, didn’t listen to his father. What Bush did in Afghanistan, was disrespectful to our troops, our allies, and the Afghan people, Bush Abandoned all to go after Saddam. He violated his Oath, he let Bin Laden go free and also allowed the Taliban and al-quida to regroup, and Now, they are trying to take back afghanistan to continue their terrorist training camps.
Secondly, I saw the red flags go up when Bush/Chaney and the Republicans convinced our Supreme Court to Ignore the Constitution and “APPOINT” Them to the highest office in the Land. The next red flag went up when Bush took a zero deficit and a 700 billion surplus and gave their corporate contributors Tax cut, after Tax cuts, as well as deregulating the whole Corporate ranks, which allowed them to charge what they wanted in return for their services, Bush eliminated the system of Checks and Balances that would have prevented the Economic downfall beginning in 2007, but can’t blame just Bush, Companies wasted and wrecklessly gave bonuses and spent their profits instead of reinvesting into their company.
This is where our trouble began, and this is where we need to start to fix it.
The next red flags went up together, First Bush approved Torture, and he didn’t realize that whatever he approved to do, could be done to fellow Americans, The Geneva Convention also Protects US. Stretched his Authorization for afghanistan to go into Iraq(NOT APPROVED BY CONGRESS), Bush, Rumsfield, Chaney, and many others used False and tampered with Intelligence, to Attack Iraq. Bush Lied and mislead Congress(whose members were threatened with withholding of pet projects if they spoke out against it),Lied to the UN and the World.
Bush with 100% support of Republican Congress violated many Laws,
-First off, Their Oath of Office
-Geneva Convention on Torture
-International War Crimes Act, which states, That no nation has the right to pre-emptivly attack another soverign nation unless that nation is in Immediate danger, and with proper evidence. (Bush had none of the requirements)
-International war Crimes Act, on Human Rights
And the Biggest charge of all, for letting binLaden, Taliban, and al-quida go free, in the military it would be a courts-martial offenses, example
1)Conduct Unbecoming an Officer
2)Giving comfort and aid to the enemy
3) AWOL/Leaving one’s duty Post
This is what Bush did, and had he ever spent time on duty in the guard he would have known this.
Now many Republicans will say, “Clinton Lied” Yes he did, but Clinton’s Lies didn’t cause the deaths of 4600 servicemembers, and thousands more wounded. Clinton’s Lies didn’t start an Illegal war. Think about it.
As for health Care, It has to begin with the Bush tax cut roll back, and those paying taxes would be paying the same as they did before Bush took office. Secondly, The President and the Congress needs to re-establish a Regulatory Commission to Over see companies, and to set guidelines on how much they could charge americans for Insurance coverage, another suggestion is to get health insurance like you get car, home, etc., The Commission could also set levels for Drug companies and Credit Card Companies, And the money saved by rolling back the Bush tax giveaways, can be used for programs or to start paying down the deficit.
The point is this, Apparently Clinton with a bi-partisan congress were able to come together to not only provide a surplus for the next Administration, but they managed to Balance the Budget, and get the deficit to ZERO
Then Bush took Office.
In Closing, It disgusts me and many others, that even though the Republicans Tried to destroy America, Including their misleading and ruthless tatics in the 2004 election, The Republicans will stop at nothing to get their way, They will do whatever it takes, Lie, cheat and Steal? Can’t put it pass them, They damaged our financial system, our corporate and banking system, And damaged our Reputation to the world. They brought dishonor to the Office of the President and to the Country And the worst part of all, Now we got to Clean up another Republican mess and
Is that the Cowardly Republicans Refuse to be Accountable for the Last 8 Years.
The Republicans Refuse to Accept Responsibility for their and President Bush’s actions. And I believe that the Republicans still haven’t gotten the message, yelled loud and clear last November, Because if they had, They would not be trying to make President Obama fail, The Republicans should work with the President. The Republicans need to change their ways, because until they Grow-Up and Learn to Accept Responsibility for their Actions, they will not be returned to office. They also need to listen to the citizens, Instead of Only coming to us, making promises just to get our vote, and then they stick us on the back burner until our votes are needed again
How Sad
You must remember that Bush was no CONSERVATIVE
He claimed to be!! are you saying he lied????
but he is an Oligarch!
Down with the people!
Burn the Constitution, we need the fuel to process coal!
When you have every Liberal TV & Radio, newspapers, all the liberal Talk show sniping and running down Bush for 8 fricken years your bound to BRAIN WASH the Public about how stupid Bush was supposed to be….
Kevin Kevin Kevin,
You are so correct when you state “check the facts”.
Fact #1 Democrate President
Fact #2 Budget wasn’t balanced until after the “Contract for America”
Fact #3 More than $10 Trillion Dollars by 2015 for all this spending YOUR congress and president (All Democrates) are doing. What is YOUR PLAN to pay it back? There isn’t one, this will be the first big failure in the Medical Coverage for America.
Fact #4 America is waking up to this non-sense.
Fact #5 2010 will be a Landslide Victory to remove your Dems.
John A Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Oh John, the big failure of medical coverage is already upon us, the argument is over how to fix it not. and that is what congress is working on. Fact 1 & 2 are correct, number 3,4,& 5 are skewed and a joke, want to bet there will be no landslide in 10, Dems may loose a few but still remain in charge and in 12 get ready for the Johnson 64 type of landslide for Obama.
Smilee is confused, because he cannot see Obama as a failure, because they both look the same. Obama will be sacrificed by his own party before the next election happens, because everything they are doing is wrong and is blowing up in their faces, and I know how democrats work. They can never be held responsible for what they do. Obama isnt the one making all these decisions on what to do right now, hell man, he doesnt have a clue. The democrats as a whole are reaching for straws. They havent a clue what to do. They will collectively gather to save face, and throw Obama under the bus. You watch and see. It’ll be better than a sitcom.
John A
You have to be really creative to give republicans credit for the Clinton surpluses, and blame the democrats for the Bush (and Reagan) monster deficits.
Bush had congress for most of his term in office. He never vetoed a spending bill. He cut taxes to spur the economy, but most of the cuts went to the people who needed it least and did little increase economic activity. He also blew nearly a trillion dollars on a war to destroy Iran’s worse enemy. Blame the dems – who are far from perfect.
Yeah Kevin.
Kevin… Well that will never happen again in my lifetime, or my children’s, and maybe not even my grandbaby’s lifetime (a balanced budget or surplus). And Bush may have got the ball rolling on the bail outs, but Barry has spent money that isn’t even printed yet. This is not going to solve the problem. It is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, if it ever gets better!
Kevin,
Check your facts. The budget was balanced in large part by passing mandates on the states. Thus getting the costs off the federal budget and onto the states’ budgets.
It wasnt balanced. Smoke and mirrors, facts were, it was never balanced. He told about as much truth about that as he did when he said “I did not have sexual relations with that women”. Right.
Or that he smoked dope, but he didnt inhale. Right.
I agree with you. I am writing somebody every day. I attend every teaparty that I can to find out what more I can do and then I do it. We have to fight back or lose this country. The best thing that we can do though is turn back to the God of Abraham,Issac, And Jacob and let him join the fight. I think one of the reasons were in this situation to begin with is because we turned our backs on him by taking prayer out of our schools, the 10 commandments out of public places, even a nativity scene off the courthouse lawn. I guarentee that if we put the God of our forefathers back in action that this fight will be over before it even begins. God is still on the Throne. We have to quit making the name of Jesus Christ a dirty word though because I know that Allah doesn’t live in this country.
Allah is a foolish goat jockey
Brian,I don’t think Allah is anything so it would be difficult to be a goat jockey,stupid or otherwise.
Patricia,
Thank you for keeping the name of Jesus the Christ in the converstion. Without him nothing matters.
Jim
Dear Jim, You are welcome. I don’t know about you but I am tired of Jesus Christ being a dirty word. I don’t care that Athiests and Muslims find it offensive. Did you know that military chaplins have been ordered not to pray in the name of Jesus? How wrong that is. You can mention the name of any other God but nothing that has to do with Christianity. Our country was built on Judeo- Christian princiblesand I think it’s past time to put them back. You are right about us being nothing without Jesus and it is nice to see somebody say so. May God bless you and your family.
sorry to bother you,
there never was prayer in school. We live in America, not Russia, Go home. Separation between church and state…sound familiar…?
or did you go to public school ?
We never should have let you people in to the U.S.A.
Religious freedom, it was supposed to stop this nonsense, what a mistake.
And if your going to bring Jesus into this,
start being morally outraged and support the Global Marshal Plan Initiative, hypocrite! Maybe you could make the World a better place, rather than trying to bring about the Apocalypse.
or maybe start being morally outraged at our infant mortality and education rates, we used to be among the very best in all the world, now we are last among 1st world nations. We have to import scientists to study in our universities, because our children are illiterate and simply cannot compete!
“Without education by all a nations citizens, Democracy cannot exist!” B. F. (paraphrased)
Also, FYI I happen to live next door to Allah. Nice guy. Teaches at the University. Big family- you’d think he was catholic, except he doesn’t have that (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)…? Taller than I thought, but very modest. Good neighbor, good kids, kinda quiet though. Nice yard. Drives a Dodge.
Dan Irwin,
There is NO Separation between Church and State. Get the facts.Click here for the Facts
As for Prayer in Schools, you must be a little young puppy. There was.
Oh, and by the way, there is still prayer in our Congress and House of Reps.
Thank God for Prayer.
have you read that?
It proves my point exactly.
go back to college!
jees!
You ignorant snob! You don’t know what you are talking about. I am old enough to remember having a prayer or spiritual thought read every morning over the PA system. You need to stick to what you know!
As far as the decline in our education, I agree with you. But not for the reasons you think! Liberals & Unions have infiltrated our Universities for years, and have made their way into the Elementary level of education…teaching their radical “I deserve a handout” mentality to our Youth. So, if you want someone to blame for poor spellers, Look in the mirror!
Funny. We prayed in the Indianapolis Public Schools when I went there in the 60′s. Prayer was banned when I was in about the 2nd grade.
I beg to differ with you but there was prayer in school everyday! I started my school day by saying the pledge of allegiance and that was followed daily by a prayer. If you are going to be rude to people you should at least have your facts straight. We said prayers at assemblies, at football games,at all school functions. Because I am a Christian I will forgive your ignorance. Allah may live in your neighborhood but he doesn’t live in mine. God loves you anyway and I hope someday you find him. I will pray for you everyday.May God bless you and your family.